Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-27 Thread Bruce Simpson
I can confirm that with 7-STABLE as of this writing, the USB problems with amd64 and Xorg appear to be fixed. The key requirements are a 7-STABLE tree from *now*, a fresh buildworld+buildkernel, and a forced rebuild of libpciaccess to pick up PCIOCGETBAR. I can now run both scanpci and Xorg wi

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-19 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:22:03 -0600 Robert Noland wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 16:39 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > On 2009-02-19 13:21, Stephen Clark wrote: > > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so > > > dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so: Undefine

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-19 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 16:39 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 2009-02-19 13:21, Stephen Clark wrote: > > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so > > dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so: Undefined symbol > > "NumCurrentSelections" > > This is a VNC problem, i

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-19 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2009-02-19 13:21, Stephen Clark wrote: > (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so > dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so: Undefined symbol > "NumCurrentSelections" This is a VNC problem, it uses an old API which has been removed in newer X.org servers: htt

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-19 Thread Stephen Clark
Dan Allen wrote: While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about: a. The bogus keyboard scans. Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no keyboard & no mouse! Bummer. I found that if I simply added to /etc/rc.conf: hald_enable="YE

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-14 Thread sam sirlin
I've just upgraded to the latest xorg on my amd64 box 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 16 07:33:20 PST 2009 I have a radeon graphics card, drm0: on vgapci0 - had to add the option mentioned in UPDATING Section "ServerLayout" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" ... Things seem mo

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-10 Thread Robert Noland
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:57 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Robert Noland wrote: > > ... > > Ok, lets try another test... There is a scanpci util in the > > libpciaccess port. We don't install it, but it does get built. Build > > the port and run scanpci -v as root from the console. That shoul

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-10 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Robert Noland wrote: ... Ok, lets try another test... There is a scanpci util in the libpciaccess port. We don't install it, but it does get built. Build the port and run scanpci -v as root from the console. That should poke all the pci devices on the box and tell you about them. See if that

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-09 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 23:30 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Robert Noland wrote: > > ... > > Ok, that is odd... Once drm is loaded and X opens it, the ddx driver > > should request that the irq handler be installed. At that point, dmesg > > should show something resembling the following. > > > >

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-09 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Robert Noland wrote: ... Ok, that is odd... Once drm is loaded and X opens it, the ddx driver should request that the irq handler be installed. At that point, dmesg should show something resembling the following. vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xc000 2

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-09 Thread S.N.Grigoriev
09.02.09, 09:00, "Robert Noland" : > On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 02:08 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > > Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > > > S.N.Grigoriev wrote: > > >> I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from > > >> kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-09 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 19:26 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Robert, > > First, thanks for all your dedicated work so far on the Xorg ports. > > I realize this upgrade has been somewhat fraught with unexpected issues. > > FWIW, things are not greener on the Linux side of the fence; many Ubuntu

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-09 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Robert, First, thanks for all your dedicated work so far on the Xorg ports. I realize this upgrade has been somewhat fraught with unexpected issues. FWIW, things are not greener on the Linux side of the fence; many Ubuntu and Debian users have reported issues with the newer Xorg and in partic

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-08 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 02:08 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > > S.N.Grigoriev wrote: > >> I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from > >> kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still > >> unreachable with X. > > > > Just fo

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-08 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 02:08 +, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > > S.N.Grigoriev wrote: > >> I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from > >> kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still > >> unreachable with X. > > > > Just fo

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-08 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Bruce M. Simpson wrote: S.N.Grigoriev wrote: I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still unreachable with X. Just following up to confirm that you are seeing exactly the same symptoms with USB and X

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 04:25:21PM -0500 I heard the voice of Alex Goncharov, and lo! it spake thus: > > Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) You can specify a date in a supfile since, like, ever. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administra

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Matthew (Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:48:15 -0600) * | On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 04:25:21PM -0500 I heard the voice of | Alex Goncharov, and lo! it spake thus: | > Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) | | You can specify a date in a supfile since, like, ever. `-

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- Alexandre \ (Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:03:06 -0500) * | > When I install the old packages, I can no longer rebuild and install | > new (say `csup'ed on 2009-03-01) port components, as one whole -- I | > can only do it selectively, excluding from the upgrade most | > X-dependent things. That suc

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) * > | In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade > | fails, you should fall back to what worked. > > So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port i

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- I/Alex (Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:11:21 -0500) * | Knowing about specific things now fixed for specific users is very | encouraging. | | Thanks a lot! `-* ,--- You/Matt (Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:17:16 +) * | I had better post to the lists exactl

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-01 Thread Matt Dawson
On Sunday 01 February 2009 13:11:21 Alex Goncharov wrote: > On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:33:56 + I wrote: > | That is not to say the new Xorg doesn't work. The only problems I've > | seen on Radeons needed a couple of options lines in xorg.conf due to > | the hald/dbus/xorg race and an fdi to make the

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:25:09PM +0200, Kostik Belousov wrote: > In contrast, 1.5.3 upgraded and I observed two issues, one was the > Xorg sleeping in "ttyin", that was promptly fixed. What was this one about? I just had the weird experience (after upgrading with much manual intervention) of X

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread Stephen Clark
Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Peter (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100) * | X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using FreeBSD as a | desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant POLA | violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is not | acceptable. Ful

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:54:42 -0800) * | On Saturday 31 January 2009 01:25:21 pm Alex Goncharov wrote: | > So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port is brought in | > -- and it disables my system. What is my way of action? Right -- | > install the old packages, tak

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread vehemens
On Saturday 31 January 2009 01:25:21 pm Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) * > > | In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade > | fails, you should fall back to what worked. > > So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component)

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/vehemens (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:58 -0800) * | In general when upgrading, you take your chances. If a port upgrade | fails, you should fall back to what worked. So, a *fundamental* (practically an OS component) port is brought in -- and it disables my system. What is my way of actio

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread vehemens
On Fri Jan 30 11:53:16 PST 2009, Peter Jeremy wrote: >As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org >upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this >suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes >(see below). X11 is a critical component

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-31 Thread Danny Braniss
> As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org > upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this > suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes > (see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using > FreeBSD as a desktop a

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
S.N.Grigoriev wrote: I thank you for your response. I've applied the patch to pci.c from kern/130957. Unfortunately there are no positive results. USB is still unreachable with X. Just following up to confirm that you are seeing exactly the same symptoms with USB and Xorg 7.4 as I see on my am

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Peter (Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:11 +1100) * | X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using FreeBSD as a | desktop and having upgrades fail or come with significant POLA | violations and regressions for significant numbers of people is not | acceptable. Fully agree with this. | I

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 06:53:11AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org > upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this > suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes > (see below). X11 is a critic

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
As a general note, this is the second time in a row that an X.org upgrade broke X for a significant number of people. IMO, this suggests that our approach to X.org upgrades needs significant changes (see below). X11 is a critical component for anyone who is using FreeBSD as a desktop and having u

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread keneasson
I have to agree with you that this latest update was most problematic for me. I keep my system very up-to-date, usually every 3-5 days. FreeBSD 7.1 RELENG (Which is stable at the moment) on Toshiba X200-AX1 Two major problems both noted in UPDATING but still cause of a huge number of problems w

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread S.N.Grigoriev
30.01.09, 12:59, "Markus Hitter" : > Am 30.01.2009 um 10:16 schrieb S.N.Grigoriev: > > after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree > > I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started > > (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become > > unreachable (timeou

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2009 um 10:16 schrieb S.N.Grigoriev: after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become unreachable (timeouts). It is not enough to kill Xorg to restore the U

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-30 Thread S.N.Grigoriev
Hi list, after upgrading to Xorg 7.4 from the FreebSD ports tree I've got my USB stack completely unusable. If Xorg is started (manually or via xdm) my USB printer and external HDD become unreachable (timeouts). It is not enough to kill Xorg to restore the USB functionality. FreeBSD has to be res

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 16:45 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Dan Allen wrote: > > Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. > > > > I have run > > > > portupgrade -rf libxcb > > > > I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa > This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. > I had to r

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Dan Allen wrote: Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to bring X back up. This should have compi

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Dan Allen
Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my keyboa

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Freddie Cash
On January 28, 2009 10:10 pm Larry Baird wrote: > Initially thought this upgrade was a mistake, until I found out about > "hald_enable" and "dbus_enable". Upgrade would have be a lot easier if > they were mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I would have found these > knobs more quickly if mentioned

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 09:25 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * > | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are > | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to > | update some/several libraries as well as

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:16 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: > Alex Goncharov wrote: > > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * > > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > > |

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to | update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is | about 60 or 70 ports now. That c

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that pa

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:58 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * > | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to > | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > | reported. We were stalled fo

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues | reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the | amount of change was

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 07:46 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > | understand. ums currently doesn

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. | | I pulled a

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Alex Goncharov wrote: I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time. There are definitely issues with xorg-7.4 at the moment. The root issue seems to be that USB mice simply don't work for me, and running Xorg appe

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Larry Baird
In article you wrote: > ,--- You/Robert (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500) * > | > Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has =20 > | > worked fine until this new Xorg. > | > | Firefox not working is one of the symptoms of a botched upgrade. If you > | ldd firefox-bin

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:16:11 -0500) * | > Now I can use X again BUT... Firefox 3.0.5 is still broken. It has =20 | > worked fine until this new Xorg. | | Firefox not working is one of the symptoms of a botched upgrade. If you | ldd firefox-bin you will likely find that it is li

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Dan (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700) * | > While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about: | > | >a. The bogus keyboard scans. You are quoting me and I need to clarify... | Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf | The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no k

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Noland
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:11 -0700, Dan Allen wrote: > Although the hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf worked, I noticed that a lot > of other demons get running. I needed to add dbus_enable as well. > That fix is too intrusive in my book. > > In any event Firefox is now broken and does not run at a

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Dan Allen
Although the hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf worked, I noticed that a lot of other demons get running. I needed to add dbus_enable as well. That fix is too intrusive in my book. In any event Firefox is now broken and does not run at all. I backed out the /etc/rc.conf changes and generated an x

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-28 Thread Dan Allen
While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about: a. The bogus keyboard scans. Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no keyboard & no mouse! Bummer. I found that if I simply added to /etc/rc.conf: hald_enable="YES" that things now