Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-17 Thread Aluminium Oxide
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:08:56 -0800, "Jo Rhett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > 12 or so honest queries on the mailing list about why "make buildworld" > or the freebsd-update mechanism doesn't work for me. Which I try to > answer > in detail, even when the questioner was insulting me. Why doesn't m

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : 20-something people telling me that my shorthand for -core proves that I'm : an idiot. It wasn't the topic, and it doesn't change the real question one : bit, but it's a great chance for everyone to call me an idiot

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-14 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Jo Rhett wrote: For now we'll have to see if Colin can find ways around the problems without the tools he needs to do it right. It seems fairly clear to me that Colin's tools provide useful building blocks that can be used to create something like what you're looking f

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-14 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 05:09:06PM -0800, Jo Rhett wrote.. > Replying offlist because this topic is dead. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:50:15AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Deliberate antagonism of most (if not all) FreeBSD developers is unlikely > > to assist in getting your ideas listened to.

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : 1) "core" deliberately killed suggestions of improved binary update processes :You have yet to produce the e-mails demonstrating this. I can state authoritative and categorically that core did no such thing.

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-13 Thread Jo Rhett
Replying offlist because this topic is dead. On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:50:15AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Deliberate antagonism of most (if not all) FreeBSD developers is unlikely > to assist in getting your ideas listened to. Asking if there it was possible to prioritize getting something do

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, 2006-Jan-12 00:08:56 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote: >I'm going to kill this topic. Results of my trolling to see if we could >get any committer interest in this topic are: Deliberate antagonism of most (if not all) FreeBSD developers is unlikely to assist in getting your ideas listened to. You a

Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:38, Jo Rhett wrote: > 20-something people telling me that my shorthand for -core proves that I'm > an idiot. It wasn't the topic, and it doesn't change the real question one > bit, but it's a great chance for everyone to call me an idiot. Am I in this category? I wonder..

SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates..

2006-01-12 Thread Jo Rhett
FreeBSD-current: please accept this posting to close off the thread that your list saw half of. I'm going to kill this topic. Results of my trolling to see if we could get any committer interest in this topic are: 17 enterprises e-mailing me privately to agree that it sucks, but that they doubt