Re: release cycle

2007-06-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:10:03PM +0100, Chris wrote: > On 04/06/07, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Chris wrote: > > > >> So my question remains when we have 7.0 and 6.3 both STABLE releases > >> will the ports tree not be supported in 6.3 a just released version of > >> FreeBSD? > > >

Re: release cycle

2007-06-05 Thread Chris
On 04/06/07, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris wrote: > So my question remains when we have 7.0 and 6.3 both STABLE releases > will the ports tree not be supported in 6.3 a just released version of > FreeBSD? I can't help but get the impression that you're spoiling for a fight here,

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
>From Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 01:55:01PM -0700: > Chris wrote: > > > So my question remains when we have 7.0 and 6.3 both STABLE releases > > will the ports tree not be supported in 6.3 a just released version of > > FreeBSD? > You are focusing on released version num

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:17:17PM +0100, Chris wrote: > On 02/06/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:02:44PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: > >> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > On Tue, May

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Doug Barton
Chris wrote: > So my question remains when we have 7.0 and 6.3 both STABLE releases > will the ports tree not be supported in 6.3 a just released version of > FreeBSD? I can't help but get the impression that you're spoiling for a fight here, so let me ask you to take step 1, which is relax a lit

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Chris
On 02/06/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:02:44PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > > Agreed. 6.3

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Chris
On 02/06/07, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 2, 2007, at 3:45 , Chris wrote: > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few

Re: release cycle

2007-06-04 Thread Chris
On 02/06/07, Fabian Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > > of any sc

Re: release cycle

2007-06-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:02:44PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lac

Re: release cycle

2007-06-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:45:26AM +0100, Chris wrote: > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are rele

Re: release cycle

2007-06-02 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 2, 2007, at 3:45 , Chris wrote: Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same

Re: release cycle

2007-06-02 Thread Fabian Keil
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that

Re: release cycle

2007-06-02 Thread Chris
On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > be later than that. The plans to s

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Colin Percival
Scott Long wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: >> I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past when >> X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the >> X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we >> have errata noticed and Fre

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Scott Long
Colin Percival wrote: Bruce A. Mah wrote: We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instance

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Volker
On 05/29/07 17:26, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > And that's just the src/ part. The original poster was mostly concerned > about the X.org upgrade, which as we all know lives in the ports/ tree. > If we were to do a "point release" we'd basically require a complete > port freeze and package build run. I

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also > impact this. At

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:18:51PM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Voker, I think with ports freeze still the case, they can't release a > new version before sorting all Xorg 7.2 issues IMHO. The freeze has been lifted. OTOH things are still settling down. mcl ___

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Colin Percival wrote: > Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were >> severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the >> announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and >> 5.2.1-RELEASE...t

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Colin Percival
Bruce A. Mah wrote: > We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were > severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the > announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and > 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did >

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, LI Xin wrote: > Hi, Erik, > > Erik Trulsson wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: > [...] >>> I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but >>> IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. >>> >>> What does the core and releng t

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2007-May-29 12:29:29 +0200, Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad idea. >There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE branch >that a full release cycle seems warranted. Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nomina

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread LI Xin
Hi, Erik, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: [...] >> >> I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but >> IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. >> >> What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. > > A quick release c

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: > Hi! > > Reading some of the latest blog entries today, I've seen there has > been some (newbie) user frustration with the latest X.org upgrade > (mostly by not reading docs or not understanding the ports system at > all). flz@ and des@ had

Re: release cycle

2007-05-29 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
On 5/29/07, Volker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org upgrade being a major upgrade which wo