Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Daniel Roethlisberger wrote: > If your situation allows running pf, then there's an alternative > method: bind sshd normally to port 22, but use pf to deny direct > connections to port 22, redirecting connections to some high port > X to port 22 using a `rdr pass' rule. You can even make > e

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-12 Thread Daniel Roethlisberger
Robert Watson 2009-10-11: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > >Are you sure? The majority of BSD machines in my vicinity > >have multiple accounts. > > > >And even if there's only one account, there is no reason to be > >careless with potential port-takeover risks. > > > >Therefore I adv

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: Are you sure? The majority of BSD machines in my vicinity have multiple accounts. And even if there's only one account, there is no reason to be careless with potential port-takeover risks. Therefore I advise against running critical daemons on unp

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-08 Thread Bap
Quoting Doug Barton : Oliver Fromme wrote: There are shell machines with lots of user accounts, none of which have administrative control of the system. Sure there are, but they make up only a tiny fraction of the systems on the network today. wow Doug -- Improve the effective

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Doug Barton wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > There are shell machines with lots of user accounts, none > > of which have administrative control of the system. > > Sure there are, but they make up only a tiny fraction of the systems > on the network today. Are you sure? The majority of BSD

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-08 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> There are shell machines with lots of user accounts, none >> of which have administrative control of the system. > > Sure there are, but they make up only a tiny fraction of the systems > on the network today. > > share

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-08 Thread Doug Barton
Oliver Fromme wrote: > There are shell machines with lots of user accounts, none > of which have administrative control of the system. Sure there are, but they make up only a tiny fraction of the systems on the network today. Doug -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
> Doug Barton wrote: > > Daniel Bond wrote: > > > However, I'm concerned about the suggestion of using an > > > unprivileged port > > > > Please explain your reasoning, and how it's relevant in a world where > > the vast majority of Internet users have complete administrative > > control o

Re: openssh concerns

2009-10-05 Thread Daniel Bond
Hi. I explained my opinion quite well (imo) a bit further down in my previous email. I'm not sure what to answer. I don't necessarily think it's relevant for every computer running sshd. I see a tendency to change sshd port to 2022 and other port numbers. I'm not sure everyone doing it is