Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-28 Thread Doug Barton
Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > Hmm, let me cite your letter in this thread: This isn't a court of law. :) > sysutils/portconf does not have that limitation. If you specify flags using > that method, they will always be used. > > FYI, > > Doug > =

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-27 Thread Dmitry Pryanishnikov
lov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Todorov @ Paladin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, freebsd-stable Subject: Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: Also - why portupgrade is no

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-26 Thread Doug Barton
Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > I've tried to use sysutils/portconf, but found that it still doesn't > give an universal solution: I think we need to be careful what our expectations of "universal" are with a ports tree as large, and a userbase as diverse, as what we have. However ... > 1) it do

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-26 Thread Dmitry Pryanishnikov
Hello! On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: It depends. If options are OPTIONS (in the ports sense), they are saved and independent of portupgrade. If options are sysutils/portconf does not have that limitation. If you specify flags using that method, they will always be used. True.

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-24 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 01:51:52PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: > >> Also - why portupgrade is not always aware of > >> previously chosen options for a port build? > >> > > It depends. If options are OPTION

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Helge Oldach
Chuck Swiger: >FreeBSD's COMPAT stuff will let you run binaries >compiled against an older version of FreeBSD just fine for almost all >circumstances. However, as soon as you try to install a new port >which depends on something already installed, or upgrade anything, >you pretty much real

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Aug 23, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Greg Byshenk wrote: As a possible point of clarification, my comments earlier (and, I suspect similar comments of others) were not meant to imply that one should not rebuild ports after a major upgrade, but only that one need not do so _before_ upgrading. [...probabl

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 12:23:00PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > In practice, however, pretty much all software nowadays depends on > shared libraries, so it's reasonable to do a "pkg_delete -a" after > upgrading to a new major version of FreeBSD, and then reinstall all > of the ports you us

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: >> Also - why portupgrade is not always aware of >> previously chosen options for a port build? >> > It depends. If options are OPTIONS (in the ports sense), they > are saved and independent of portupgrade.

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-23 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:07:45PM +0300, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: > Also - why portupgrade is not always aware of > previously chosen options for a port build? > It depends. If options are OPTIONS (in the ports sense), they are saved and independent of portupgrade. If options are makefile optio

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:07:45 +0300 > From: "Todorov @ Paladin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Vivek Khera написа: > > > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: > > > >>> don't find this out the hard way :-( > >>> > >> How to find which is dynamically

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Todorov @ Paladin
Vivek Khera написа: > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: > >>> don't find this out the hard way :-( >>> >> How to find which is dynamically using libs and which application is >> not? >> >> This is something I was wondering before... >> >> Thank you in advance. > > path of leas

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: don't find this out the hard way :-( How to find which is dynamically using libs and which application is not? This is something I was wondering before... Thank you in advance. path of least resistance: upgrade everything. :-) somet

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Todorov @ Paladin wrote: [ ... ] How to find which is dynamically using libs and which application is not? You can use ldd. In practice, however, pretty much all software nowadays depends on shared libraries, so it's reasonable to do a "pkg_delete -a" after u

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Todorov @ Paladin
Vivek Khera написа: > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > >>> It shouldn't be necessary to rebuild ports before the upgrade. If >>> there is something running that is critical, you might want to upgrade >> [ ... ] >> Good to confirm. I haven't so many ports installed that I couldn't

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Ian Smith wrote: It shouldn't be necessary to rebuild ports before the upgrade. If there is something running that is critical, you might want to upgrade [ ... ] Good to confirm. I haven't so many ports installed that I couldn't start from scratch if it all fe

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-22 Thread Ian Smith
Thanks to all who responded for the collective good advice. On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Greg Byshenk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:52:02PM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Am 21.08.2006 um 18:19 schrieb Ian Smith: > > > >I recently (without drama) upgraded a 5.4-RELEASE system to > > >FreeBSD

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-21 Thread David Syphers
On Monday 21 August 2006 13:56, Vivek Khera wrote: > On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > > b) do I need to upgrade all existing ports (way out of date) before > > the > > source upgrade, or can I be confident of doing that from 6.1 (-R or > > -S)? > > You really want to rebuild all you

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-21 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:52:02PM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 21.08.2006 um 18:19 schrieb Ian Smith: > >I recently (without drama) upgraded a 5.4-RELEASE system to > >FreeBSD 5.5-STABLE #1: Tue Aug 1 11:11:20 EST 2006 > >for 'target practice' at least, on the way to 6.1-STABLE > >I was pre

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-21 Thread Stefan Bethke
Am 21.08.2006 um 18:19 schrieb Ian Smith: Hello -stable ones, I recently (without drama) upgraded a 5.4-RELEASE system to FreeBSD 5.5-STABLE #1: Tue Aug 1 11:11:20 EST 2006 for 'target practice' at least, on the way to 6.1-STABLE I was preparing to portupgrade everything next, when I wondered

Re: 5.5 to 6.1 upgrade

2006-08-21 Thread Vivek Khera
On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Ian Smith wrote: a) should I upgrade from RELENG_5 straight to RELENG_6 or should I be stopping off at 6.1-RELEASE along the way first? and I'd go with 6.1-REL just to make sure you have a known working release, not that *you* broke something. With RELENG_6