Re: softupdates: any way to force sync?

2002-07-22 Thread Kirk McKusick
TED]>, Ronald Klop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: softupdates: any way to force sync? Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:38:14 -0400 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-ASK-Info: Confirmed by User [Mr. McKusick-- Sorry for including you mid-discus

Re: softupdates: any way to force sync?

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Ronald Klop wrote: > The following sysctl's define the delay before things are written to > disk with softupdates. I think they work in realtime and setting them to > 3,2,1 for a little time wil sync the disk faster. But wil make the > caching less efficient. So play wit

Re: softupdates: any way to force sync?

2002-07-18 Thread Ronald Klop
The following sysctl's define the delay before things are written to disk with softupdates. I think they work in realtime and setting them to 3,2,1 for a little time wil sync the disk faster. But wil make the caching less efficient. So play with it for a while. kern.filedelay: 30 kern.dirdelay

Re: softupdates and "/"

2000-12-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Umm, if / is mounted read-only you can tunefs it. i.e., in single user mode > after boot, or drop to single user and use 'mount -o ro -u /' then do the > tunefs. However, it doesn't buy you much on /, and there is still some risk > with it, so I'd not

Re: softupdates and "/"

2000-12-15 Thread Kevin Downey
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * flag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001215 14:28] wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > > on my / p

Re: softupdates and "/"

2000-12-15 Thread John Baldwin
On 15-Dec-00 flag wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 11:50] wrote: >> > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates >> > on my / partition? >> >> Yes and no. > > uhhhmanyway i'm unable to set softupdates on /

Re: softupdates and "/"

2000-12-15 Thread Matt Dillon
: :So to keep Softupdates active on all boot ups, you have to re-execute :"tunefs -n enable /" or "tunefs -n enable /usr"? Otherwise its not active :on the partition? : :Jorge Once you turn softupdates on with tunefs, it's on for good. Of course, your kernel has to be compiled with the S

Re: Softupdates?

2000-12-08 Thread Nat Lanza
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Briefly, they are a way of combining writes to disk so that fewer > writes happen for meta data. There's also the "and ordering writes so that the disk is left in a consistent state after each write, preventing filesystem damage in a crash without the sl

Re: linux emulation crashes (was: Re: Softupdates disappears?)

2000-06-23 Thread Richard Todd
Mike Pritchard writes: >I finally figured out my problem after quite a few reboots, and >forcing a few crash dumps. >It turns out that I had an old linux_base port installed, and when the >/usr/sbin/linux script ran /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig the version >I had, for whatever reason, wound u

Re: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-22 Thread Mike Harding
Now I am totally confused. There is a /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README file I see via cvsweb which I don't have as well, and the two files you are supposed to link appear to already be in the directory, but I don't fetch them. There was a change on Jun 22 which is when I started seeing a problem. I

Re: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-22 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Mike Harding wrote: > > I just did a 'cvsup' of 4.0-RELENG and the soft update links in > /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs got deleted. Created them again, ran cvsup > again, and they got deleted again. Anyone know what's going on? > > - Mike H. Did the files just disapear,

Re: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-21 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:01:34PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 22-Jun-00 Mike Harding wrote: > > I have been doing cvsup at least weekly for at long time and this is > > the first time that this has happened. > > Hmm :-/ > > I guess it could have something to do with the softupdates

Re: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-21 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 22-Jun-00 Mike Harding wrote: > I have been doing cvsup at least weekly for at long time and this is > the first time that this has happened. Hmm :-/ I guess it could have something to do with the softupdates commit but I doubt it.. NFI then really, sorry. --- Daniel O'Connor software an

Re: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-21 Thread Mike Harding
I have been doing cvsup at least weekly for at long time and this is the first time that this has happened. - Mike H. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:48:04 +0930 (CST) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Daniel O'Connor" <[

RE: Softupdates disappears?

2000-06-21 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 22-Jun-00 Mike Harding wrote: > I just did a 'cvsup' of 4.0-RELENG and the soft update links in > /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs got deleted. Created them again, ran cvsup > again, and they got deleted again. Anyone know what's going on? Probably because you told cvsup it should delete things it d

Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps

2000-01-01 Thread Tom
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : How many instances of postmark are you running? I used 4 separate > :instances (you must run them in separate directories). > > Well, you didn't say that! :-) I'm running one. I'll start up > another couple to match your test. Actual

Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps

1999-12-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
: How many instances of postmark are you running? I used 4 separate :instances (you must run them in separate directories). Well, you didn't say that! :-) I'm running one. I'll start up another couple to match your test. : How fast are your disks? I used an external RAID-5 array t

Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps

1999-12-31 Thread Tom
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :FYI: On hub.freebsd.org (the freebsd mailing list server), if we activate > :softupdates on the disk containing the postfix spool, the machine reboots > :(silently if I recall correctly) within 5 minutes of postfix starting up. > : > :This is a much

Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps

1999-12-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :FYI: On hub.freebsd.org (the freebsd mailing list server), if we activate :softupdates on the disk containing the postfix spool, the machine reboots :(silently if I recall correctly) within 5 minutes of postfix starting up. : :This is a much smaller system of course, with smaller memory and fi

Re: SOFTUPDATES

1999-12-22 Thread Dan O'Connor
>Did ``boot -s'' and ran tunefs but got an error: > >Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ># pwd >/ ># tunefs -n enable /usr >tunefs: soft updates set >tunefs: /dev/rda1s1e: reload: Invalid argument > >What caused this? There's no reference in the manpage. I've seen it on some IDE

Re: SOFTUPDATES

1999-12-21 Thread Ted Sikora
Jerry Gardner wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 10:58:39PM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote: > > Is anyone running the SOFTUPDATES option with Stable? I just enabled it > > and was wondering if there are any issues I should be aware of > > performance wise. Any problems? I enabled it for the /usr > > fil

Re: SOFTUPDATES

1999-12-21 Thread Jerry Gardner
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 10:58:39PM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote: > Is anyone running the SOFTUPDATES option with Stable? I just enabled it > and was wondering if there are any issues I should be aware of > performance wise. Any problems? I enabled it for the /usr > filesystem. Any reason why / is not

Re: SOFTUPDATES

1999-12-21 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 09:00:37AM -0800, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > Is anyone running the SOFTUPDATES option with Stable? I just enabled it > > and was wondering if there are any issues I should be aware of > > performance wise. Any problems? I enabled it fo

RE: SOFTUPDATES

1999-12-20 Thread David Schwartz
> Is anyone running the SOFTUPDATES option with Stable? I just enabled it > and was wondering if there are any issues I should be aware of > performance wise. Any problems? I enabled it for the /usr > filesystem. Any reason why / is not specifically recommended? I've been quite happy wit

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-07 Thread Gary Palmer
Brad Knowles wrote in message ID : > Someone else was kind enough to explain to me why bpf is needed > -- DHCP depends on it. While I find this a very regrettable > situation, and I would encourage work to try to help ensure that this > is not the c

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-07 Thread Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga
on Tuesday, 7 Sep 1999 15:58:12, Gene Sokolov wrote: > Is it possible to limit this flamewar to just one list or, even better, move > it off the freebsd lists? I agree, I can't understand where this will arrives. We are spend our time, personal troubles and gossips aren't matters to any freebsd l

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 03:58:12PM +0400, Gene Sokolov wrote: > Is it possible to limit this flamewar to just one list or, even better, move > it off the freebsd lists? [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the place for this kind of thing ;) Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you boote

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-07 Thread Gene Sokolov
Is it possible to limit this flamewar to just one list or, even better, move it off the freebsd lists? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-07 Thread Mark Murray
This crap definitely does not belong on this list. Please take it offline. > At 7:56 PM +0200 1999/9/6, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > Please stop spreading such disinformation. It only comes across as an > > infantile attempt to cover up the fact that you didn't do your > > homework, and it

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Alex Perel
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Brad Knowles wrote: [ -questions removed from CC list ] > And as any lawyer can tell you, this doesn't mean anything. The > sharks are slobbering all over themselves to nail Microsoft over the > recent problems with hotmail, and FreeBSD Inc. could very easily be > s

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> At 10:48 AM -0700 1999/9/6, Tom wrote: > > > Uhh... this isn't true at all. It is far from trivial to get root. > > Show me a rootkit that works on 3.2-stable. > > I don't need to. We're violating rule #1 of Cheswick & Bellovin > -- if you don't need something, don't run it. This f

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Mike Smith
> At 11:29 AM -0700 1999/9/6, Mike Smith wrote: > > > I'll say it again; read what has already been said. Most of us are > > heartily sick of your side of the argument, and you're not likely to > > get many useful responses while you continue to display basic ignorance > > of the issues involved

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:29 AM -0700 1999/9/6, Mike Smith wrote: > I'll say it again; read what has already been said. Most of us are > heartily sick of your side of the argument, and you're not likely to > get many useful responses while you continue to display basic ignorance > of the issues involved. I

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:21 PM -0500 1999/9/6, David Scheidt wrote: > The cvsupfile that is linked from > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html is one that properly tracks > RELENG_3. You must have done something silly. Yup. It wasn't obvious to me that the default supfile would not be the same as

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:56 PM +0200 1999/9/6, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Please stop spreading such disinformation. It only comes across as an > infantile attempt to cover up the fact that you didn't do your > homework, and it damages the project's reputation as well as your own. I read the web page. It

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Alfred Perlstein
> Besides, most ethernets are switched these days, making password > sniffing for anything but connections to or from the machine the sniffer > is running on completely useless. Isn't it possible to spoof arp and compromise a switch? Just wondering. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to [E

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blargh. I followed the instructions on > , but didn't realize > that it was going to create a /etc/cvsupfile that had "." for a > default tag. Now I get to reset that to "RELENG_3" (which is what I

Re: softupdates in latest build?

1999-09-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:41 AM -0700 1999/9/6, Mike Smith wrote: > By the time an attacker has enough access rights on > your system to make use of the packet filter, they have enough access > rights to add it if it's not there. That's certainly true. However, if this feature is disabled