Re: JFS

2001-07-08 Thread Bill Moran
Juha Saarinen wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: > > > I know my opinion of Wind River has been negatively impacted by > > the numerous spelling errors I found on their web site the first > > time I visited. > > That's different though -- one person rubbishes the product because t

Re: JFS

2001-07-08 Thread Juha Saarinen
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote: > I know my opinion of Wind River has been negatively impacted by > the numerous spelling errors I found on their web site the first > time I visited. That's different though -- one person rubbishes the product because the presentation uses a Politically Inc

Re: JFS

2001-07-08 Thread David Malone
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 08:35:35PM -0500, Dave Uhring wrote: > You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper. When the > system goes completely haywire and either crashes or locks up so hard > that a manual reset is required, UFS/softupdates requires a substantial > amount of time to

Re: JFS

2001-07-08 Thread Bill Moran
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I just took a look at www.sistina.com and a web site which has its font > > set to Arial is suspect, IMHO. If they have to use Microsoft products > > to produce a web site.. > > Is that the best you could come up wit

Re: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread Dave Duchscher
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 08:35:35PM -0500, Dave Uhring wrote: > > You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper. When the > system goes completely haywire and either crashes or locks up so hard > that a manual reset is required, UFS/softupdates requires a substantial > amount of time to

Re: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help)

2001-07-07 Thread Philip J. Koenig
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:50:21 +0200 (CEST) > From: "A. L. Meyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As far as I know, ReiserFS is GPL. What would porting it to > FreeBSD be better or worse than other (newer and less stable) > alternatives? > > Is this a technical issue or are politics involved? AFAIK R

Re: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread Ted Sikora
Juha Saarinen wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > > > I use "logging" on Solaris and XFS on Linux and have tried reiserfs on > > Linux. All are superior to UFS/softupdates when the going gets tough. > > Disk access times may or may not be comparable with UFS/softupdates, but > >

Re: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread Dave Uhring
- Original Message - From: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Re: JFS > Dave Uhring wrote: > > You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper. When the > > system goes

Re: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread Juha Saarinen
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > I use "logging" on Solaris and XFS on Linux and have tried reiserfs on > Linux. All are superior to UFS/softupdates when the going gets tough. > Disk access times may or may not be comparable with UFS/softupdates, but > the integrity of my filesystems is

Re: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread Bill Moran
Dave Uhring wrote: > You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper. When the > system goes completely haywire and either crashes or locks up so hard > that a manual reset is required, UFS/softupdates requires a substantial > amount of time to run fsck. If you have a very large filesys

RE: JFS

2001-07-07 Thread A. L. Meyers
Hi again! I'd like to see continuing cooperation amoung the various more or less open source Unixes and their clones. If anyone is capable and competent to port ReiserFS to FreeBSD, it would be Hans Reiser himself and his friends. Which is not at all stating or implying that UFS is not a very go

Re: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help)

2001-07-05 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 4 July 2001 at 11:38:08 +0100, Antony T Curtis wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, 12 June 2001 at 19:22:45 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100 >>> Josef Karthauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0

RE: More than just logging, Re: JFS

2000-01-31 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
> Why logging filesystems don't work: > > You generally (with the hardware available in PCs now) > can't tell the difference between: > > 1) loss of power (ok!) > 2) crash where the filesystem datastructures weren't corrupted (ok!) > 3) crash where the filesystem datastructures were corrupted (

Re: More than just logging, Re: JFS

2000-01-31 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Bad news: people running depending on _only_ logging are kidding themselves. Yeah. Funny how they have been doing so without getting bitten, eh? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If you consider our help

Re: JFS

2000-01-31 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Cy Schubert wrote: > > > > Due to the lack of interest, FreeBSD's LFS has fallen into disrepair > > > over the years. With the implementation of softupdates in FreeBSD I > > > don't think there is any need for LFS any more. > > > > Repeat that over and over the next time you wait fsck finish a 4

Re: JFS

2000-01-31 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > 4.4BSD has something like JFS, LFS (Log Structured Filesystem). LFS > > developed from a paper by John Ousterhout, the same fellow who > > developed Tcl & Tk. All other log structur

More than just logging, Re: JFS

2000-01-31 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Gary Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000130 22:55] wrote: > Tom wrote in message ID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > > > > Due to the lack of interest, FreeBSD's LFS has fallen into disrepair > > > > over the years. With the implementation of softupdate