Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Tom Samplonius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080219 23:00] wrote: > > - "Alfred Perlstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a > > more > > > reliable environment other than PAE? > > > > Besideds PAE some people have mentioned ru

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
> Architecturally, it's a nasty kludge. As far as stability on FreeBSD is > concerned, my only machine under PAE with 4 GB RAM (without PAE it would > use a bit over 3 GB) is very solid on 6-STABLE. To the original poster - does a PAE kernel actually boot on your 16 gig machines ? My problem was t

RE: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kevin K
and rock-solid logic ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Voras Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:35 AM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM Tom Samplonius wrote: >

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Ivan Voras
Tom Samplonius wrote: > Is PAE really that stable? I thought it was fairly unpolished, mainly > because PAE is seen as a weak kludge implemented by Intel because they all > thought we would all be using Itanium's by now. Intel reversed their folly > pretty quickly, adopted the x86-64 extens

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
Kevin K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 > FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. Several people have already pointed out that you can either run FreeBSD/i386+PAE or FreeBSD/amd64 (64bit). However, there's an important piece of i

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Vivek Khera
On Feb 20, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote: And is there some really stability fear about FreeBSD on x86-64? Seems just the same as i386. Some poorly written software fails to run properly in 64-bit environment. I have one such package, and my solution was to compile it on a 32

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
> Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more > reliable environment other than PAE? I was faced with a similar problem last autmumn - we had been running 6.2 on a set of servers with 4 gig or RAM, but purchased new servers with 16 gig in them. I experimented with various

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Tom Samplonius wrote: - "Alfred Perlstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system. One thing to consider is that PAE in 6-stable

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Samplonius
- "Alfred Perlstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a > more > > reliable environment other than PAE? > > Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system. > > One thing to consider is that PAE in 6-stable (6.

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Kevin K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080219 14:40] wrote: > I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 > FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. > > > > I am currently recompiling the kernel to support options PAE (KERNCONF=PAE) > in order to see this. I understand this is s

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:10:17PM -0500, Kevin K wrote: > I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 > FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. > > > > I am currently recompiling the kernel to support options PAE (KERNCONF=PAE) > in order to see this. I understand this

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:10:17PM -0500, Kevin K wrote: > Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more > reliable environment other than PAE? You have two options, and these are the only two I'm aware of: 1) Run amd64 (64-bit). 2) Run i386 with PAE enabled. I would choos