Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-12 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/12/2016 09:22, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Karl Denninger writes: > >> Why not force-detach the volume that takes the error instead of a panic()? >> >> That would lead to a panic if the detached volume was the system volume >> (obviously) but for a data volume it would simply result in it being >

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-12 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Karl Denninger writes: > Why not force-detach the volume that takes the error instead of a panic()? > > That would lead to a panic if the detached volume was the system volume > (obviously) but for a data volume it would simply result in it being > forcibly unmounted (and dirty, so if it's corrup

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 12:44 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > On 7/11/2016 12:39, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 12:30 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On 7/11/2016 11:32, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 09:50 -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/11/2016 12:39, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 12:30 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: >> On 7/11/2016 11:32, Ian Lepore wrote: >>> On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 09:50 -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger < k...@denninger.net> wrote: >>

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 12:30 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > On 7/11/2016 11:32, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 09:50 -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger < > > > k...@denninger.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Here's the backtrace ... sound

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/11/2016 11:32, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 09:50 -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger >> wrote: >> >>> Here's the backtrace ... sounds like expected behavior, which is >>> not-so >>> good all-in for a situation like this. I guess the

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 09:50 -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger > wrote: > > > Here's the backtrace ... sounds like expected behavior, which is > > not-so > > good all-in for a situation like this. I guess the strategy is to > > turn > > off softupdate

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/11/2016 08:50, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger wrote: > >> Here's the backtrace ... sounds like expected behavior, which is not-so >> good all-in for a situation like this. I guess the strategy is to turn >> off softupdates before attempting such an u

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Karl Denninger wrote: > Here's the backtrace ... sounds like expected behavior, which is not-so > good all-in for a situation like this. I guess the strategy is to turn > off softupdates before attempting such an update so as not to crash the > host machine if th

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/11/2016 08:32, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 06:30 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: >> On 7/11/2016 02:57, Ronald Klop wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:38 +0200, Karl Denninger >>> wrote: >>> Got a (nasty) surprise this afternoon on my sandbox machine. I was updatin

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 06:30 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > On 7/11/2016 02:57, Ronald Klop wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:38 +0200, Karl Denninger > > wrote: > > > > > Got a (nasty) surprise this afternoon on my sandbox machine. > > > > > > I was updating some Raspberry Pi2 machines which

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Karl Denninger
On 7/11/2016 02:57, Ronald Klop wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:38 +0200, Karl Denninger > wrote: > >> Got a (nasty) surprise this afternoon on my sandbox machine. >> >> I was updating some Raspberry Pi2 machines which involved taking the sd >> card out, sticking it in an adapter and plugging i

Re: Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-11 Thread Ronald Klop
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:38 +0200, Karl Denninger wrote: Got a (nasty) surprise this afternoon on my sandbox machine. I was updating some Raspberry Pi2 machines which involved taking the sd card out, sticking it in an adapter and plugging it into the sandbox, then mounting the partition and

Not-so stable if you take a CAM error....

2016-07-10 Thread Karl Denninger
Got a (nasty) surprise this afternoon on my sandbox machine. I was updating some Raspberry Pi2 machines which involved taking the sd card out, sticking it in an adapter and plugging it into the sandbox, then mounting the partition and using rsync. Unfortunately one of the cards was, unknown to me