Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:33:16AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:46:38AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > From: Ivan Voras > > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 > > > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > > > > > On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:46:38AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > From: Ivan Voras > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 > > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > > > On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > >

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Ivan Voras > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:03:23 +0200 > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > > se

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-16 Thread Ivan Voras
On 13.8.2010 18:01, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a > degradation as the performance moves up and dow

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-15 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:37:03PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > OK. It's pretty clear that disk IO is terrible on this system. I suspect > it's the SATA/PATA converter that is the throttle. In any case, > I still have no explanation for the variation. It's not vibration. Some > of my best times w

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:07:40 +0200 > From: Roland Smith > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:36:31AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: > > > > Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot exactl

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:36:31AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: > > > Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot exactly reproduce your test, > > > because I don't have an empty second disk handy, but doing > > > > > > dd if=/de

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Saturday 14 August 2010 05:57:51 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:33:57 +0800 > > From: TJ Varghese > > > > > The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), > > > given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O > > > speeds in genera

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-14 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:06:58 +0800 > > From: TJ Varghese [..] > > You're using a laptop with 2 HDDs, so does that mean you're using the > > Ultrabay for the 2nd HDD? > > Perhaps anything connected to that drops down to ATA33 (pure speculation o

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:33:57 +0800 > From: TJ Varghese > > > The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), > > given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O > > speeds in general. 18MB/sec min, 24MB/sec max?! ICH6-M can do a lot > > more than

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:32:05PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > > 8-Stable. Going back to No

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:06:58 +0800 > From: TJ Varghese > > > > > > > Maybe there is a hardware component here? Are both disks on the same > > > controller? Or if not are both controllers using the same interrupt line? > > > > No. Each is on its one controller and is the only disk on that >

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread TJ Varghese
> The deviation in your disk I/O isn't a major surprise (to me anyway), > given the system specs. What *does* surprise me is your abysmal I/O > speeds in general. 18MB/sec min, 24MB/sec max?! ICH6-M can do a lot > more than that. Something isn't right. > > it's possible that the hw is...subopti

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread TJ Varghese
> > > Maybe there is a hardware component here? Are both disks on the same > > controller? Or if not are both controllers using the same interrupt line? > > No. Each is on its one controller and is the only disk on that > controller. > > > You should have a look at 'systat -vmstat' with dd running

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:29:54 -0700 > From: Jeremy Chadwick > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > > see variations of

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:32:05 +0200 > From: Roland Smith > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > > see variations of up

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: > > Both figures seem quite low to me? I cannot exactly reproduce your test, > > because I don't have an empty second disk handy, but doing > > > > dd if=/dev/zero bs=1m count=100 of=/tmp/foo > > With a total write size of 10

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Clifton Royston
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:32:05PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > > see variations of up to

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a > degradation as the perfor

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:01:09AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on > 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I > see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a > degradation as the perfor

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Stefan Bethke > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:23:08 +0200 > > Am 13.08.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Kevin Oberman: > > > Note the dramatic differences even on the same kernel. For the December > > 6 kernel, for example, I see a maximum of 23,676,086 and a minimum of > > just 18,304,565. > > A

Re: Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Stefan Bethke
Am 13.08.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Kevin Oberman: > Note the dramatic differences even on the same kernel. For the December > 6 kernel, for example, I see a maximum of 23,676,086 and a minimum of > just 18,304,565. Are the disks still OK? If any sectors have been remapped between runs, additio

Inconsistent IO performance

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
For some time I have seen very odd issues with IO performance on 8-Stable. Going back to November of last year when 8.0 was released, I see variations of up to 22% in identical operations. This is not a degradation as the performance moves up and down. This is a very simplistic case. I have two id