Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-11 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
Hi, On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 12:40:33AM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > Ehm, you tell them? You have them on the phone. :) > > If you are in a state to tell them, yes of course you do. However, the > situtation might mean that you aren't very coherent at all. All this doesn't exactly match t

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-09 Thread Jerome Herman
Le 08/10/2010 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still working out how to solve this: if you call emergency services (police, fire department, etc.) from yout VoIP num

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-09 Thread perryh
Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Friday 08 October 2010 12:22:40 pm Dimitry Andric wrote: > > On 2010-10-08 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the > > > "emergency call needs a location" problem? Here (again: in > > > Norway) they are still working o

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:22:40 +0200 Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 2010-10-08 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call > > needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still > > working out how to solve this: if you call em

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 10/8/2010 12:37 PM, Peter C. Lai wrote: If the OP is using I4B to do voice data processing, perhaps he would be better served migrating to either freeswitch and/or asterisk ports? That's a policy decision. We don't do policy decisions, we do technology. I'll say it again, "Tools, not policy

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Peter C. Lai
Or have they been superceded by voip stacks that abstract away the isdn layer? I would contend, at least in the US, ISDN is alive and well. Your basic smb softpbx installation is going to be talking to a digium card that is connected to a Basic/Primary Rate ISDN (B/PRI) or T-line. If the OP is u

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 10/8/2010 2:12 AM, Oliver Brandmueller wrote: ISDN is a dying technology. That sort of isn't relevant to the questions of: 1) Are there developers willing to support it, and 2) Are there users that want to use it. If both of those are true, then we need to do support it. Doug (tools, not

Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-08 Thread Christian Walther
On 8 October 2010 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: [...] > I don't know how it works in other countries, but here (in Norway) it > works like this: yes - ISDN technology is dying. > However, like all other technologies that major telcos have invested a > lot in, its death is very slow. Extremely sl

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Steven Friedrich writes: > On Friday 08 October 2010 12:22:40 pm Dimitry Andric wrote: >> On 2010-10-08 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> > Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call >> > needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still >> > working out

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Steven Friedrich
On Friday 08 October 2010 12:22:40 pm Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 2010-10-08 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call > > needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still > > working out how to solve this: if you call e

Re: ISDN4BSD removal

2010-10-08 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2010-10-08 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still working out how to solve this: if you call emergency services (police, fire department, etc.) from yout VoIP number;

Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
This is straying a bit, but I think it is important: the only good measure of when a technology is too old, is when people (who use FreeBSD in this case) stop using it. On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:12:32 +0200 Oliver Brandmueller wrote: > Maybe you don't really want to hear this, but... > > ISDN is a

Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-08 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
Hello, On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:35:01PM +, Peter Much wrote: > Any clues, ideas, pointers, hints, ressources,... are greatly > welcomed!! Maybe you don't really want to hear this, but... ISDN is a dying technology. Any time soon you won't get ISDN termination by your telecom provider anym

Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: p...@citylink.dinoex.sub.org (Peter Much) > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:35:01 GMT > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > aka Vadim Goncharov schrieb > mit Datum Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:31:46 +0700 in m2n.fbsd.stable: > > |You do not understand the problem. It is not in notices & volunte

Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-07 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Peter Much wrote: > aka Vadim Goncharov schrieb > mit Datum Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:31:46 +0700 in m2n.fbsd.stable: > > |You do not understand the problem. It is not in notices & volunteers, but > |rather in the Project's policy - delete something which could still wor

ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon)

2010-10-07 Thread Peter Much
aka Vadim Goncharov schrieb mit Datum Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:31:46 +0700 in m2n.fbsd.stable: |You do not understand the problem. It is not in notices & volunteers, but |rather in the Project's policy - delete something which could still work. |Personally, I don't use ISDN, so didn't said anythin