Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Ian Smith wrote: > % man sysinstall | tail says it all. However sysinstall has enough bits > (modules, really) that don't suck to make its presence still worthy. > > The wrappers around fdisk and bsdlabel alone are worth a lot, despite a > notion that 'real men' figure out cylinder and sli

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > The wrappers around fdisk and bsdlabel alone are worth a lot, despite a > > notion that 'real men' figure out cylinder and slice offsets themselves. > > If even those sections were broken out to separate tools, I'd ra

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-11 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Ian Smith wrote: > The wrappers around fdisk and bsdlabel alone are worth a lot, despite a > notion that 'real men' figure out cylinder and slice offsets themselves. > If even those sections were broken out to separate tools, I'd rarely > need to fire up sysinstall to, for example, partition

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Ken Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 14:51 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > I just booted off the 7.0 disc1 to check, and /usr/local/bin/links is > > still the default browser in Options, available during installation from > > another vty. So I was a bit surprised, on rebo

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:27:31PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > Personally, I quit using packages in the 2.x-3.x days since there were > far less problems building everything from sources and not trying to > mix pre-built packages and locally built ports. We are doing much better these days in term

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-08 Thread Randy Pratt
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:50:08 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Linimon) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:06:24AM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > > Additionally, I've never seen a clear way of synchronizing a > > local ports tree to that used to create the "LATEST" packages. > > There's really not a way

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:06:24AM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > Additionally, I've never seen a clear way of synchronizing a > local ports tree to that used to create the "LATEST" packages. There's really not a way to easily track this, especially with the fact that we tend to run incremental updat

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Kevin Oberman wrote: > Kai Otto wrote: > > I think someone mentioned it earlier, but I'm not shure. > > IMHO it would _be_ nice if there's a HTML-browser in the standard > > installation (with option to not install it in sysinstall). > > I say HTML and not web because I think about the /usr/sh

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-08 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:06:24AM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > The ports tree distribution tarball provided on the installation disks > is another area that needs some consideration. I suspect that many > people aren't aware of the need for "adoption": > > http://myfreebsd.homeunix.net/hints_n_

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-07 Thread Scott Long
Ken Smith wrote: I'm with Scott in that I like the "other distros" being around. I don't think that necessarily means we shouldn't try harder. But IMHO trying harder needs to be reflected in a new installer. Lets face it, sysinstall s*cks... For the type of folks who want the installer to do

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-07 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:46:37 -0400 Ken Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 14:51 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > > I just booted off the 7.0 disc1 to check, and /usr/local/bin/links is > > still the default browser in Options, available during installation from > > another vty. S

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-07 Thread Sticky Bit
On Sunday 07 September 2008 06:46:37 Ken Smith wrote: > The path I'm planning is based on these observations: > > - Many people believe you should just use sysinstall to install > the baseline system, and any packages/ports installs should > be done post-install. Its hard to

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-06 Thread Ken Smith
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 14:51 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: > I just booted off the 7.0 disc1 to check, and /usr/local/bin/links is > still the default browser in Options, available during installation from > another vty. So I was a bit surprised, on rebooting into my so far not > much configured 7.0, t

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-05 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Kai Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2008/9/5 > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content > > To: Tom Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Hello > > > > I think someone mentioned it earlier, but

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-05 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:49 +0200 > From: "Kai Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Kai Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/9/5 > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content > To: Tom Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hello > > I th

Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-05 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 01:24:49PM +0200, Kai Otto typed: > > I think someone mentioned it earlier, but I'm not shure. > IMHO it would _be_ nice if there's a HTML-browser in the standard > installation (with option to not install it in sysinstall). > I say HTML and not web because I think about th

Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content

2008-09-05 Thread Kai Otto
-- Forwarded message -- From: Kai Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/9/5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content To: Tom Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello I think someone mentioned it earlier, but I'm not shure. IMHO it would _be_ nice if there's a HTML-browser in the standard installati