Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 09:17:27AM +, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 > per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. > > The problem is there's no "ls" in FixIt mode so you need to use > "echo *" to see what files are present. "S

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:29:31 +1000 Andy Farkas wrote: > > So since "ls" wasn't required it wasn't included. > > I just booted an old 6.1-RELEASE CD and selected Fixit mode... > > ls -lF works as expected! I should clarify that by saying that "ls" is included in the "live filesystem" but not in

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Andy Farkas
> So since "ls" wasn't required it wasn't included. I just booted an old 6.1-RELEASE CD and selected Fixit mode... ls -lF works as expected! -andyf ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 > per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. > > The problem is there's no "ls" in FixIt mode so you need to use > "echo *" to see what files are present. Why is this so

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:01:32 +1000 Andy Farkas wrote: > Why is this so? I think the Fixit environment only contains tools necessary for installing the system and has traditionally needed to be small enough to fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk. So since "ls" wasn't required it wasn't included. -- Bruc

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. The problem is there's no "ls" in FixIt mode so you need to use "echo *" to see what files are present. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-stabl

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-08 Thread perryh
Pete French wrote: > Is there a way inside the install environment to see > what the kernel has detected and created in /dev ? Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailma

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Pete French
> My problem was that the ILO CDROM presented it's drive as starting > from block one (or somesuch nonsense). I ended up doing a netinstall > because the boot would work (BIOS understood what was going on) but > FreeBSD did not. Interesting ... I've never seen that, but it's always good to know t

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Pete French
> If there's more than one CD device you'll get a prompt asking which to > use. ...which is precisely what happens under 7.X So, now that I have it installed, when I am logged into the machine I have these devices in /dev: crw-r- 1 root operator0, 89 7 Dec 02:39 /dev/acd0 crw-r-

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:40:35 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > If there is a physical CD-ROM drive which is upsetting sysinstall, I > wouldn't be surprised (sysinstall is depressing, please don't get me > started on it. :-) ). I'm willing to bet it makes the assumption > there's only one CD device

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Pete French wrote: > I am not burning a CD or using any physical media. I am booting > directly off the image file using iLO. Hence the stuff in that thread > doesnt apply. It's defintely 8 specific - I can boot an mage > from 7 it works fine, but 8 doesn't. J

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 07/12/2010 01:44 Pete French said the following: > >> Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) > > > > ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) > > That's exactly the reason why I said "unless t

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Pete French on Monday, 06 December 2010: > > Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) > > ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) > > > Because few thousand other people do not seem to be as lucky: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gna

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:52:25PM +, Pete French wrote: > > This problem has been reported many times in the past and almost > > certainly has nothing to do with 8.x. Here's a thread about the matter > > where a user states the same as you but about 7.1: > > > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mail

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
> This problem may be a reverse problem of this PR: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138789 > > In other words, your virtual CD-ROM reads correct TOC from mounted > image but block size is wrong? Maybe old umass(4) corrects this case > heuristicly but the new USB stack doesn't? Mi

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:46 Pete French said the following: > So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long as > anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr > filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 BTW, that error message is produced by sysinstall o

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 06:46 pm, Pete French wrote: > So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long > as anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr > filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 > > Am wndering if this could be due to the chan

Re: Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:44 Pete French said the following: >> Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) > > ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) That's exactly the reason why I said "unless the reporter also actively pursues it" :-) Because as my e

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
> This problem has been reported many times in the past and almost > certainly has nothing to do with 8.x. Here's a thread about the matter > where a user states the same as you but about 7.1: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-10/msg00307.html I found that - it ap

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
So, I just gave the 8.1 CD a try - which didnt take nearly as long as anticipated. End result is that it also fails to insall. Pr filed as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152874 Am wndering if this could be due to the change in the USB stack somehow though - I have a feeling that iLO pr

Efficacy of PR's [was Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD]

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
> Apparently you've been born with a silver spoon or something :-) ...more likely an ability to irritate people until it gets fixed ;-) > Because few thousand other people do not seem to be as lucky: > http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/gnats-openpercategorycummulative.html ah, not good gra

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 01:27 Pete French said the following: > Actually my expereice of filing PR's has been pretty positive over the > years. Am a bit surprised you feel this way. Investigating and posting > here also generates reseults, but I do like to tag them onto a PR in > the end, just so they dont g

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
> Basically if it feels like you are the first one to report the problem, then, > unfortunately, the onus is on you... Sure, I've been around here long enough to know this - was just trying to see if anyone else knew about it, as it takes so long to boot over the network that I really didn't want

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 10:51:36PM +, Pete French wrote: > Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time > I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message > telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD > distibution. > > I ouzzled ov

Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 07/12/2010 00:51 Pete French said the following: > Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time > I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message > telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD > distibution. > > I ouzzled over it a b

FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD

2010-12-06 Thread Pete French
Trying to re-install a set of HP servers over the iLO, and every time I tried to install the 8.1 CD I ended up with an error message telling me that the CD looked more like an audio CD than a FreeBSD distibution. I ouzzled over it a bit, and then remembered that I originally installed these machin