CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Andy Kosela
On Wed, Jun 11 2008, Robert Watson wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> From a security standport, backporting fixes to previous versions of ports >> creates a difficulty. It's much harder to tell, for example, if a RedHat >> "port" is vulnerable or not, because RedHat uses their ow

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Gary Palmer
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:36:28PM +0100, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > >From a security standport, backporting fixes to previous versions of ports > >creates a difficulty. It's much harder to tell, for example, if a RedHat > >"port" is vulnerable or not

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Paul Schmehl wrote: From a security standport, backporting fixes to previous versions of ports creates a difficulty. It's much harder to tell, for example, if a RedHat "port" is vulnerable or not, because RedHat uses their own proprietary versioning system to define "whe

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 16:54:02 +0100 Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Andy Kosela wrote: Redhat/CentOS is more reliable here as backports involves both security and bug fixes, plus even new hardware enhancements. In the FreeBSD environment, we call the

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Andy Kosela wrote: Redhat/CentOS is more reliable here as backports involves both security and bug fixes, plus even new hardware enhancements. In the FreeBSD environment, we call the place that gets a blend of security and bug fixes, plus new minor feature and driver enh

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Anton - Valqk
Thanks for the answer! I'm glad someone answered me a human way, because two times before, I wasn't answered that way (well... my posts were angry and incomplete but...that's why i didn't continued to post...my bad). now on topic: Marian Hettwer wrote: Hi there, some thoughts to your problem

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Andy Kosela
Robert, Thank you for your insights. I think that this agreement between users and developers does occur. The proper balance between rapid development vs long term stability is the platform through which such agreement can be achieved. It's up to the Core Team to reasonably steer the Project in suc

Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature withbuggy 6.3

2008-06-11 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi there, some thoughts to your problem in regards to Debian administration time needed vs. FreeBSD administration time needed. I believe I can make a point there, since I have 600 debian boxes under my hood but still am a FreeBSD advocate ;-) On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:53:02 +0300, Anton - Valqk <[