Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-23 Thread Joe Peterson
J.R. Oldroyd wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:27:58 -0700, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also, it seems that intermittent mouse freezes happen more often when >> I've been away from the machine for a while and return to start using >> the mouse again, but that's not always the case. A

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-23 Thread J.R. Oldroyd
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:27:58 -0700, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, it seems that intermittent mouse freezes happen more often when > I've been away from the machine for a while and return to start using > the mouse again, but that's not always the case. A few short > freezes/st

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-23 Thread Joe Peterson
Wayne Sierke wrote: > So it seems the only thing of interest that I"ve managed to capture so > far pertains to glxgears - an instance of the "stutter" and a part of a > short freeze when dragging its window. Unfortunately these frequent > mouse disconnects make it difficult to recognise genuine fre

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-23 Thread Wayne Sierke
Doh! Now that I'm no longer using the 8 month old version of schedgraph.py that was displaying interesting but useless graphs, perhaps I won't continue to appear as though I'm raving like such a lunatic about what is contained in my ktr captures. Here follows a re-examination of the previously pos

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-20 Thread Wayne Sierke
Kris, Latest captures (of interest) - they're not hard to come by, it seems. I see more than a couple of these every hour at least while I'm actively doing anything on this system, and I've witnessed up to two or three times that many at times. It seems my initial glee about catching Epiphany ou

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-19 Thread Wayne Sierke
Kris, Another one, this time xorg for 2 seconds, approximately in the middle. I'm feeling inclined to doubt the validity of this and the previous data set, however. Looking at the tail end of each of the events in question, there is clearly activity on other processes before the supposedly long e

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-19 Thread Wayne Sierke
Kris, I caught this one during what I'd class as normal usage, with a handful of apps open, and no glxgears or other glx apps (intentionally) running. It shows Epiphany getting cpu solidly for 2 seconds! If you crank up the ticks per pixel and scroll to the end you can't miss it. This typifies an

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-18 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 20:50 +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Wayne Sierke wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 21:06 +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> Same deal as before then. It cannot be the same problem as in the > >> previous 6.x trace (unless you are using a non-mpsafe filesystem, i.e. > >> not UF

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-17 Thread Joe Peterson
Kris Kennaway wrote: > KTR_SCHED Kris, BTW, I am curious if the traces I posted were informative. Let me know if I did not create them correctly. The xterm test seems to vary in usefulness depending on video card (faster cards catch up too quickly), but the freezing still happens quite often usi

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
Wayne Sierke wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 21:06 +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: Same deal as before then. It cannot be the same problem as in the previous 6.x trace (unless you are using a non-mpsafe filesystem, i.e. not UFS). Kris In fact I have some MSDOSFS auto-mounting from /etc/fstab, but

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-17 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 21:06 +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Same deal as before then. It cannot be the same problem as in the > previous 6.x trace (unless you are using a non-mpsafe filesystem, i.e. > not UFS). > > Kris In fact I have some MSDOSFS auto-mounting from /etc/fstab, but normally not

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
Wayne Sierke wrote: Just thought I'd check in in case there are any suggestions at this point. If not I'll proceed with recompiling ports and preparing test kernels. Same deal as before then. It cannot be the same problem as in the previous 6.x trace (unless you are using a non-mpsafe filesys

Re: 7.0-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily

2008-01-14 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 21:09 +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Yeah, this shows things like contention between the mouse device and > other parts of the kernel that still require the Giant lock in 6.x. It > is not likely that these will be fixed in 6.x but most of them are in > 7.0, so you should