Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-20 Thread Mike Smith
> i'm not entirely sure i understand. "pnp o/s = no" causes the bios > to assign an irq to the pcic controller, meaning the pcic controller > raises that interrupt on insertions/removals, but the driver, > operating in polling mode, never clears the interrupt so the machine > wedges trying to ser

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot [not only laptop!]

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gerd Knops writes: : The 4.2 Beta CD does not boot on a system that has a MultiTech : MT5634ZPX PCI (aka ActionTec 56k FAX PCI Modem) modem card (yes, that : one has a controller and is supported by FreeBSD). Interestingly, once : the system is installed, the c

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot [not only laptop!]

2000-11-19 Thread Gerd Knops
Just as a (possibly related) side note: The 4.2 Beta CD does not boot on a system that has a MultiTech MT5634ZPX PCI (aka ActionTec 56k FAX PCI Modem) modem card (yes, that one has a controller and is supported by FreeBSD). Interestingly, once the system is installed, the card can be replac

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-19 Thread mike ryan
On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mike ryan writes: > : On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: > : > This won't be changed. polling works on more systems than a specific > : > IRQ, and the IRQ to use varies so widely that any choice is likely to > : > be wrong. > : are the

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Which is all great and good except that it is not mentioned : in UPDATING and the release notes lie (irq 0 != poll mode). : So something needs to be fixed, whether it be GENERIC, the : release notes or UPDATING.

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread John Baldwin
On 18-Nov-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> On 17-Nov-00 Blaz Zupan wrote: >> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> > Ok, then it is the same as leaving the "irq" part out alltogether. >> >> >> >> Not entirely. IRQ 0 is actually the clock. I think it is there to allow >> >> you

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Mark . Andrews
> > On 17-Nov-00 Blaz Zupan wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > >> > Ok, then it is the same as leaving the "irq" part out alltogether. > >> > >> Not entirely. IRQ 0 is actually the clock. I think it is there to allow > >> you > >> to edit the IRQ during the kernel config to

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Nate Williams
> P.S. I am considering changing it back to non-polling given the > problems. But that has other problems (eg on some Compaq? machines > you want to use 3, but using 10 will wedge the machine). One of the 'biggest' reasons is that there isn't any good 'default' to use for polling. I had code i

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Peter Radcliffe
Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> probably said: > Polling 'should' work in all cases, although suspend/resume may not work > reliably (races and such). If it doesn't work on Steve's laptop, > something is messed up with the PCIC probing/setup, since it should work > fine. Completely unreliable

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Nate Williams
[ PCIC defaults to polling mode ] > There are six million brands of laptop in the world. To be honest, > this thread is basically the first one to say that there's something > wrong. PAO3 has done this for some time, if I understand thigns > correctly, and hasn't reported problems. FWIW, I swi

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Rasmus Skaarup
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rasmus Skaarup >writes: > : Please tell me how I can boot the 4.2-RC1 floppies, because I cannot set > : the pcic irq during 4.2-RC1 installation (!). > > You aren't allowed to set the IRQ in the kernel config as you are

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Steve Price
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:56:29PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: # # One thing you might try is to remove the irq 0 from the line and see # if that works for you. Maybe we have a bug in the irq stuff of the # pcic... Here's how it shakes out. Cardirq boot --- in 10

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rasmus Skaarup writes: : I have a Compaq Armada M700 with the same pcic problem as the other guys : with Dell's and whatnot - I've read Warners mails stating the pro's and : con's of this situation. : : Please tell me how I can boot the 4.2-RC1 floppies, because I

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Rasmus Skaarup
Hi, I have a Compaq Armada M700 with the same pcic problem as the other guys with Dell's and whatnot - I've read Warners mails stating the pro's and con's of this situation. Please tell me how I can boot the 4.2-RC1 floppies, because I cannot set the pcic irq during 4.2-RC1 installation (!).

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mike ryan writes: : On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Price writes: : > : Yep, that did it. Since Dell laptops are so commonplace it : > : would be nice get this fixed in the GENERIC before the release : > : goes out. I'm sure

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lars Eggert writes: : I've added irq 10 to the pcic line (Windows tells me this is the correct : one), and cards are detected correctly during boot and work fine. However, : ejecting/inserting them whan the system is running doesn;t work anymore - : pccardd is silent

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Price writes: : I put a smiley. I didn't mean to offend you. I really appreciate : all the hard work you and others have done in geting the pccard : changes in. It just seemed odd that it worked with 4.0 and doesn't : now with 4.2R. I now understand why it

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Steve Price
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:37:28PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: # : I know you wouldn't/didn't do this but when I first read your # : response I couldn't help but think what if there were only # : six brands of laptops in the world and a million of them in use # : with FreeBSD. Two people own the f

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Price writes: : On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:03:44PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : # : # This won't be changed. polling works on more systems than a specific : # IRQ, and the IRQ to use varies so widely that any choice is likely to : # be wrong. : : While it sad

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Steve Price
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:03:44PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: # # This won't be changed. polling works on more systems than a specific # IRQ, and the IRQ to use varies so widely that any choice is likely to # be wrong. While it saddens me that this laptop won't boot a GENERIC 4.2 without me havi

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread mike ryan
On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Price writes: > : Yep, that did it. Since Dell laptops are so commonplace it > : would be nice get this fixed in the GENERIC before the release > : goes out. I'm sure there is a more appropriate fix, but the > : following pat

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: : Removing it should be fine. I think it is more of a hack to allow : an irq setting to be there for the kernel config to pick up on and : let the user edit. Yes. That's right. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "uns

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Blaz Zupan writes: : > # Sure, but I don't quite understand why it says "irq 0". Is that the same as : > # leaving the "irq" part out alltogether? : > : > The best I can tell it puts pcic in polling mode. I could be : > wrong. :) : : Ok, then it is the same as le

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Blaz Zupan writes: : Sure, but I don't quite understand why it says "irq 0". Is that the same as : leaving the "irq" part out alltogether? irq 0 is there specifically so that the irq is listed in userconfig so that users can change it. Warner To Unsubscribe: sen

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Price writes: : Yep, that did it. Since Dell laptops are so commonplace it : would be nice get this fixed in the GENERIC before the release : goes out. I'm sure there is a more appropriate fix, but the : following patch worked for me. This won't be changed.