Re: time gives a strange result

2021-01-14 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:17:52 +0700 Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 14.01.2021 8:16, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > all my make commands run as time make ... > > > > I just got this result compiling scribus: > > > > 5m19.94s real

Re: time gives a strange result

2021-01-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Sijmen, On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 03:07:39 +0100 "Sijmen J. Mulder" wrote: > Hi Erich, > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > 5m19.94s real 1h15m31.76s user5m20.87s sys > > > > I do not know how long it really took but 1h seems far

time gives a strange result

2021-01-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
time adjustments. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: lightly loaded system eats swap space

2018-06-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:06:42 +0200 Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 19.06.18 um 03:48 schrieb Erich Dollansky: > > A very long time ago - and not on FreeBSD but maybe on a real BSD - > > I worked with a system that swapped pages out just to bring it back > > as one contiguo

Re: lightly loaded system eats swap space

2018-06-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:27:23 +0100 tech-lists wrote: > On 18/06/2018 09:08, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:19:02 +0100 > > tech-lists wrote: > > > >> freebsd-11-stable r333874, ZFS raidz1-0 (3x4TB disks), 128GB RAM, > >

Re: lightly loaded system eats swap space

2018-06-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
a much smaller Raspberry Pi, that it runs into trouble when there is no swap even there is enough RAM available. Is it easily possible for you to add some GB of swap space and let the machine run then? How much swap do the other machines have? Erich ___ f

Re: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x50904) with this library (version 0x50a01),Abort (core dumped)

2018-05-31 Thread Erich Dollansky
lematic ports. There are some other applications in the tree which do the same. So, you are spoiled for choice to get this problem fixed. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD on 64MB memory

2018-02-12 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, I do not know if this helps here. I faced also memory problems on the older Raspberry generations. Enabling swap helped even with no swap in use. Maybe, you also try it. Erich On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:56:02 -0800 Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > Hi, > > I have an old Soekris system

Re: Booting Raspberry Pi with input on serial console

2017-03-10 Thread Erich Dollansky
ystem to boot? > It sounds to me like a custom solution or take a relay which switches the input on only after the system is up and running. Either by software or by a timer. Yes, I know, stone-age is sending greetings. Erich ___ freebsd-stab

Re: slow machine, swap in use, but more than 5GB of RAM inactive

2017-03-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:46:21 -0800 Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Erich Dollansky > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 23:30:58 +1100 (EST) > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:19:35 +0800, Erich Dollan

Re: slow machine, swap in use, but more than 5GB of RAM inactive

2017-03-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 23:30:58 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:19:35 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I wonder about the slow speed of my machine while top shows ample > > inactive memory: > > ( quoting from th

Re: slow machine, swap in use, but more than 5GB of RAM inactive

2017-03-07 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:02:42 +0300 Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:19:35AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > I wonder about the slow speed of my machine while top shows ample > > inactive memory: > > > > last pid: 85287; load averages

slow machine, swap in use, but more than 5GB of RAM inactive

2017-03-06 Thread Erich Dollansky
Used, 15G Free, 8% Inuse The swap space in use can be explained by large compilations done recently. Why is the inactive memory not put to use. I do not want to restart the machine. So, if I could help find the source of the problem, I would do. Erich

HOST_NAME_MAX not defined in unistd.h

2016-10-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
ME_MAX is defined in unistd.h. What is the real idea? Keep gethostname compatible to the rest or force users to call sysconf? Should I file a bug report? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-s

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-31 Thread Erich Dollansky
lds on FreeBSD after installing FreeBSD either binary or from source. If the installation is older, it might be required to move up the version ladder step by step. The only problem I see is the time it take to build it. As long it is the choice a user has, it is part of the game. Or with your

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
e.b. I look typically for information of a program at the program's site. I do not think that they care there what FreeBSD makes out of the program. With other words, it creates confusion. Erich On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:41:42 +0200 Fernando Herrero Carrón wrote: > El 28/8/2016 0:06, &quo

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:41:42 +0200 Fernando Herrero Carrón wrote: > El 28/8/2016 0:06, "Erich Dollansky" > escribió: > > > > Hi, > > > > Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: > > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php

Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11

2016-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd11-clang-gcc&num=1 It shows clearly how slow CLang is compared to GCC. This is the price FreeBSD has to pay to be free of GPL in the base system.

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
could be used on all platforms. I am not even sure if the same compiler was used on the Linux platforms. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-23 Thread Erich Dollansky
gt; > > wrote: > > > > Il 2016-08-21 08:45 Erich Dollansky ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > I am sure that some know of this site: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2bsd-7linux-be

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
nel on > freenode to widen and focus the freebsd performance discussion net > and doc any outcomes/notes in the FreeBSD Wiki. > this is good. So, how can we help him to get things straight the next time? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:21:01 +1000 Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 19/08/2016 9:34 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > I am sure that some know of this site: > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2bsd-7linux-bench&num=4 > > > >

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
is something the Sun of the IT world. Erich > > Sami > > בתאריך 19 באוג׳ 2016 02:34 AM,‏ "Erich Dollansky" < > erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com> כתב: > > > Hi, > > > > I am sure that some know of this site: > > > > http://www.phoronix.

Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
e of the results are caused by the use of CLang and some of the results test applications/compilers and not operating systems. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any

Re: DISPLAY not set inside jails after update to 10.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.3-PRERELEASE #4 r297043

2016-03-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:23:09 -0600 Ian Lepore wrote: > On Sat, 2016-03-19 at 13:48 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > nothing else was changed on the machine except the update. I could > > use > > > > ssh 192.168.12.12 > > > > to connect t

DISPLAY not set inside jails after update to 10.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.3-PRERELEASE #4 r297043

2016-03-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
should allow to connect to all machines providing ssh and forward X11. What did I miss? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-uns

Re: su on 10.2: TERM: Undefined variable

2015-11-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
o tell the applications the capabilities of your terminal. When X is running, it is normally set to xterm, if nothing is available - or you do not know what is available - set it to vt100. Of course, the best would be to find out why it is not set on your machine. Erich ___

Re: 9-STABLE showing disk timeouts

2015-10-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:05:15 +0200 Marc Santhoff wrote: > What is happening there and why? I have the same problem with one specific connection. Can you check the cable? Can you switch to another connector? > Do I need to worry? Not, if it was the connection.

Re: fat32 question

2015-09-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
never had any problem, so far, on freebsd. > Once again, thank you for help. > FreeBSD has no problem when the file system is directly on the device. Other operating system have problems with it as they expect partitions. fdisk is a bit outdated. Use gpart for partitioning. Erich __

Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-04 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,. On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 11:18:57 +0300 Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 08:37:40AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300 > > > > and it works there. > > > > So, it is just a matter of time until the fix fi

Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300 Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 06:33:53PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:19:47 +0300 > > Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 08:00:47AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote

Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300 Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 06:33:53PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:19:47 +0300 > > Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 08:00:47A

Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:19:47 +0300 Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 08:00:47AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > Is this change of behaviour a feature or a bug? > > Provide a minimal example demonstrating the issue. while preparing the example

pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
e or a bug? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: cp loader.sym loader.bin fails

2015-03-30 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, I found the cause of the problem. For some strange reason, some file have been the year 2099 set as the date. I replaced the source tree with a new one and the problem was gone. Erich On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:15:56 +0800 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > I just updated my s

cp loader.sym loader.bin fails

2015-03-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
turday and thought an update will do. Does somebody has a hint? Thanks! Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: When will subversion be ready for updating/upgrading src && ports?

2013-07-05 Thread Erich Dollansky
e to handle a format change automatically. > > So I guess subversion isn't (yet) designed for this sort of stuff, > which leaves me with a useless box. :( What did I say a long time ago? It takes time to get this up but not a cut-off date. Erich > > Thank you for all your

Re: wireless mouse on 9.1

2013-04-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:51:08 -0500 Chuck Burns wrote: > On 4/21/2013 7:04 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > the M570? I have it too. As it was my first wireless and they do not > > sell the wired anymore, I worried about battery life time. It was > > one year for the first

Re: wireless mouse on 9.1

2013-04-21 Thread Erich Dollansky
wireless trackball. works perfectly. As > does my daughter's wireless mouse. Also logitech. > > the M570? I have it too. As it was my first wireless and they do not sell the wired anymore, I worried about battery life time. It was one year for the first batt

Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:58:41 +0200 Panagiotis Christias wrote: > On 11/2/2013 14:11, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:23:53 +0200 > > Panagiotis Christias wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I

Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
not boot when I use GPT. Can you give a MBR partitioned disk a try? My notebook was earlier booting from a GPT disk. I cannot remember why I used MBR for the new disk. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/f

Re: FreeBSD-9.1 would not boot on pentium3 laptop

2013-02-05 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:11:28 -0500 "Mikhail T." wrote: > On 05.02.2013 23:50, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > USB? > That would be a shame -- I'm dressing up this old machine to be used > with a couple of USB-devices. try 7.4. This worked for me until a lig

Re: FreeBSD-9.1 would not boot on pentium3 laptop

2013-02-05 Thread Erich Dollansky
own custom kernel, nor even the official 9.1-RELEASE > CD1 would boot... In both cases the boot process runs up to detecting > uhub0, then either hangs forever or shuts off after a short while. > USB? I have had a Fujitsu LifeBook which I only could use

Re: FreeBSD wiki offline for a bit

2013-01-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:08:33 +0200 Alexander Yerenkow wrote: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide Error 503 Service Unavailable Service Unavailable Guru Meditation: XID: 931036950 Varnish cache server is all I get. Erich ___ free

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-04 Thread Erich Dollansky
that there was a reliable infrastructure available which served you for years without any problems. What will happen after the jump into the cold water? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-04 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:45:10 +1100 "Dewayne Geraghty" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich > > Dollansky Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 12:26 PM >

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
and again ... > > I'm a bit reluctant to installing svn on every system that needs > source updates. Are there more lightweight ways? > The line above will stay the same. Only the process of downloading the changes will change. Erich ___

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
e other problem people in 'developed' nations do not see exists. If - like me - you are located on a very remote location with a more or less random Internet connection, many servers become very impatient with the user and cut the connection as their values for time outs are simply too lo

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:02:11 +0100 Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 02.01.2013 06:31, schrieb Erich Dollansky: > > Hi, > > > >> Thank God! I'd hate to think that after unwinding years accumulated > >> CVS process, to rewind it for SVN, only to have to do i

Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD?

2013-01-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
ystem in place which does not affect a running system at all but things inside the OS still could be improved. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to &

Re: Ask freebsd 9 to stabil

2012-11-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:27:16 +0700 Denny Johannurdin wrote: > dear admin > > how to make freebsd 9.1 prerelease in to stable you just update the system. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: 9.1 and intel graphics

2012-10-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
; to console mode some day, but it has not happened, yet. > > How do you shutdown from a window in X if you're nonroot? Can you > have both root and nonroot windows simultaneously in X? I have all the while. You can also open a normal xter

Re: 9.1 and intel graphics

2012-10-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
temp for this cpu? 50 degrees? Seems pretty low. My i7 goes up to 96 under full load. As the CPU is made for 100 and I am in the tropics, I do not care much. This should be true for your CPU too. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: 9.1 and intel graphics

2012-10-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
or almost three years collecting dust. I do this every year on my desktop. The temperature drops then by 10K. You can use the CPU temperature as an indicator when a cleaning is needed. But blowing does not work on my machine. I really have to take screw driver and tweezers to get the work

Re: Temperature too high when high overload

2012-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
UTC 2012 > r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > There's my dmesg message: http://slexy.org/view/s21b7xTTsu > > Anyone knows how to fix this problem? Thank you. I do not know much about the diffe

Re: 9.1 RELENG_9 Unable to cleanly dismount root partition on shutdown

2012-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
d run plain UFS for / /var and /tmp and see what will happen then. I know what you will answer. But it will help to isolate the problem. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: unrecognised external drive

2012-08-14 Thread Erich Dollansky
d this ID by copying an entry from another WD product which could be the same. This works some times but also can fail some time. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, se

Re: Keyboard cutting off soon after launching X

2012-07-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
ired me to close X, but stupidly all I did was comment out the > call to "startx" rather than the whole if statement. As a result > tty7 was constantly logging me in and out in the background. > This is so cool. I really like it. Do not feel alone in a si

Re: Keyboard cutting off soon after launching X

2012-07-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Hi, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Enable moused in rc.conf and the following from xorg.conf helped me > > this time: > > > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" &qu

Re: Keyboard cutting off soon after launching X

2012-07-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
# 16.07.12 ed:setting it to false # freezes X until mouse # moves # Option "AutoAddDevices""false" EndSection I have had to defin

Re: branch 9 and uefi

2012-07-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
o reported to have these problems with 8. But at least 9 booted on mine with UEFi without problems. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: branch 9 and uefi

2012-07-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, let me make it very short. UEFI worked for me during my first installation on a UEFI machine. I moved then to 10 and still have no problems. So, if you really fail, install CURRENT and it will work. Of course you are not running then a release system with all the consequences. Erich On

Re: new desktop box

2012-06-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
tly happy with it. > Next decision might be ssd, instead of hdd. Best reviews are > for samsung 830 (of wich 64gb are fine in my case). > I plan to install from usb stick and avoid dvd-cd. Also, cannot This is what I do since 8.0. Erich ___

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-10 Thread Erich
urity holes due to it's age... > 7.4 is supported until beginning of next year. What stops you from keeping it 'current' on the 7 branch? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr

Re: ULE Scheduler

2012-06-07 Thread Erich
Hi, On 07 June 2012 10:16:07 Momchil Ivanov wrote: > At Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:12:55 +0700, > Erich wrote: > > > I've repeated the same experiment just now, setting both processes on > both cores with cpuset. The temperature got to about 72-74 C, so the > two small pieces

Re: ULE Scheduler

2012-06-06 Thread Erich
h of them since I might again get at 100 C. This would be the interesting point? Did it happen because of the dirt or because or the scheduler. > > Is there some remedy? I think that the only remedy available is the one you applied. Erich ___

Re: Ports from a particular date in the past... Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-06 Thread Erich
g -- I never fully grokked that adding "date=" > > to the supfile could achieve this desired result when csup'ing the > > Ports tree. Now I know, and I've changed the Subject line of this email > > in the hope it helps some future soul googling for the answer.

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-06 Thread Erich
Hi, On 06 June 2012 8:48:10 Chris Rees wrote: > On Jun 6, 2012 3:38 AM, "Erich" wrote: > > > No it doesn't. It states clearly that you shouldn't use tags unless you > know what you are doing, as several of us have explained more than once. > is my Englis

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-06 Thread Erich
life. Erich On 06 June 2012 16:45:03 Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <1805884.wjzbqif...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, s

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 06 June 2012 0:42:47 Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > > Hi, > > > > On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > > >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 7:13:47 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree? > > Entire tree. my problem with this is that the documentation states something very different: >From t

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), > > only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not > > branched. >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), > > only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not > > branched. >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), > > only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not > > branched. >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 1:01:37 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote: > > I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it. > > The EOL announcements have them. I don't think the release announcements > do,

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 15:33:16 Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <2490439.ec638ti...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > > Hi, > > > > On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > > In message <3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com>

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Erich
Hi, On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > > > > On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > > > It's already there. If you want the ports as of FreeBSD

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Erich
ne > doesn't want to even when compiling. One can live a day, a week, > a month behind the bleeding edge and allow other to hit problems > and report them. How is this done with the knowledge of a beginner? Erich ___ freebsd-stabl

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Erich
On 04 June 2012 16:24:56 Chris Rees wrote: > On 3 June 2012 21:55, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote: > >>> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote: > >>>> W

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Erich
Hi, On 04 June 2012 17:24:31 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 10:55:37PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote: > > >> > > >> And if a port build is broken then the maintainer needs to fix it, that > > >> is

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
ear the > day 10.04 becomes EOL. > while Ubuntu is certified to run on my laptop, it doesn't do so. So, I installed Fedora and it works. This might be an escape route for you if things go real bad. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@free

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
hich are happening now with Fedora 17 happening with FreeBSD. As I have said before, the only real reason for me not to use FreeBSD on a machine is hardware support. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/l

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
Hi, On 03 June 2012 PM 3:19:14 Doug Barton wrote: > On 06/03/2012 05:43, Erich wrote: > > it is new to me that Microsoft asks for a Windows update when a new > > Office version appears at the scene. > > Actually it's very common for Windows applications to specify a

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
Yeah, FreeBSD is also very easy for me to handle. For my wife? No, she complains then that this was working under Windows even when she never saw it working under Windows. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mail

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
Hi, On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote: > On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote: > > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is > > it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply > > ignored by the people who

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
Hi, On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote: > On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote: > > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is > > it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply > > ignored by the people who

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich Dollansky
advocacy. > YYYEES You got the point. This is all we are talking about. You found the proper words for it. All other users of FreeBSD do not have a problem with these little things. You have written your script, I have written my script. You

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-03 Thread Erich
Hi, On 03 June 2012 AM 9:15:14 Chris Rees wrote: > On Jun 3, 2012 5:26 AM, "Erich" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On 02 June 2012 PM 2:56:01 Chris Nehren wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote: > > > > I'

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 10:52:48 Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 June 2012 10:42, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote: > >> On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky" > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > But I have t

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
till not perfect, but 'good enough'. > > isn't this what I just suggested to be done by the team? Give the ports tree a new version number and people can fall back to this then. Isn't this solution too simple to be done? Erich __

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
> If you're concerned about things breaking, don't follow the bleeding > edge. This seems to be common sense. is there a second version of the ports tree available? What is the response of the list if you want to install a new package with you old ports tree? Erich __

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 4:18:45 O. Hartmann wrote: > On 06/02/12 14:47, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote: > >> I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving > >> during the release period. This could be used to giv

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
also the question if this would make sense in the spirit of FreeBSD. I have to run Fedora on one machine. The fast development there comes with a price. I installed Fedora and the applications I needed before I started to travel. I have had the chance to upgrade after 2 weeks. Hey, this was

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 3:47:27 Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > On 02.06.12 15:32, Erich wrote: > > I know that the ports tree is a moving target. But it stops moving during > > the release period. This could be used to give a fall back solution. > > > > Or do I see th

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
all back solution. Or do I see this really too simple? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 12:50:16 David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:19, Erich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote: > >> > >>> I would even a

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote: > > > I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security fixes > > just to have a system which is up and running fast after I tried an upgrade >

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich
Hi, On 02 June 2012 AM 11:39:16 David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Jun 2012, at 03:56, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to > > the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic > >

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote: > On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky" > wrote: > > > > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to > the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Erich
to maintain. How often did Fedora introduce basic changes which runs you crazy when you have to maintain several machines? Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any

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