re: firewall config (CTFM)

2002-01-28 Thread Patrick Greenwell
g to be mean, but if you don't read the docs, you deserve > the problems you get. Ah yes, another jumper-on to the RTFM and the "you get what you deserve" bandwagon. The only small problem your argument is that when telling someone to RTFM, it's usually a good idea to mak

RE: firewall config (CTFM)

2002-01-28 Thread Patrick Greenwell
enough to enable it so it needs to be done for them regardless.] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Stealthgeeks,LLC. Operations Co

Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness

2002-01-25 Thread Patrick Greenwell
to avoid speaking in absolutes. In any case, do you believe that there are thousands of people out there running systems in the particular fashion you describe above? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patr

Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness

2002-01-25 Thread Patrick Greenwell
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Mike Meyer wrote: > Patrick Greenwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Bob K wrote: > > > The problem is that you're not taking into account the installed base of > > > users who twiddle this knob. How many angry fire

Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness

2002-01-25 Thread Patrick Greenwell
firewall_enable to no) is relatively small. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Stealthgeeks,LLC. Operations Consulting http://www.stealthgeeks.net \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness

2002-01-25 Thread Patrick Greenwell
All the documentation reading in the world isn't going to make me think it's a good idea to have "no" mean "yes" and I certainly don't think it's useful or helpful to cast aspersions on individuals who want "no" to actually mean "no.

Re: NATD/IPFW in Pre-Release 4.5 does not work

2001-12-23 Thread Patrick Greenwell
kernel. > > > > Anyone else noticed that? > > Not me. Mine still works ok. I updated to the latest -stable two days ago and everything looks good here as well too. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patric