Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-07-18 Thread Matt Juszczak
I find this messages kind of weird. Are you saying your servers only run long periods of uptime with pf and *not* with ipf? I run a server and almost never put it down. IPF performs very well, including a lot of natting for my home network. Correct. IPF is unstable with our SMP (most of the

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-07-18 Thread Matt Juszczak
For me, 5 days up time after switching from IPF to PF. Before the switch a couple of hours of uptime was the maximum. Seems like the crashes are caused by ipfilter. Still same for me :) Uptime almost 20 days now after switching to PF. ___ freebsd-st

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-07-12 Thread Matt Juszczak
Yes, there is absolutely no difference. Disabled HTT in the BIOS and in FreeBSD, the box still crashes. Matt again :) So far a 13 day up time after switching from IPF to PF. If thats not the problem, I hope I find it soon considering this is a production server ... but it seems to be more st

Re: Possible exploit in 5.4-STABLE

2005-07-01 Thread Matt Juszczak
What are the chances of a base 5.4-RELEASE system with PF and securelevel 2 and updated packages being cracked and rooted? Is this something that occurs every day? Or is it difficult? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.o

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
Could you not use pfsync to mitigate the problem (at least partially)? As for your original question, I think its less work to change your hardware to something you know works than changing operating systems. Why not use single CPU machines for this? My boss refuses :-( _

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
After changing to PF I did not notice single crash for month (production servers with, sometimes, heavy load). I would try FreeBSD with PF anyway. Works perfectly. You say it didn't crash for a month, but then you say to try FreeBSD with PF because it works perfectly. To me, a month of uptime

Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
Hi all, Removing IPF for 5.4-STABLE seems to have made the boxes stable. I switched all the firewalls to PF and they haven't crashed since, its been about 3 days now... (before they were crashing every 12 hours). Here are my worries: 1) If I were to put this machine into production, it cou

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-29 Thread Matt Juszczak
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:26:06AM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: OK, when it crashes next and is sat at the "db>" prompt, type "tr" and press enter to get a trace. Copy this down (or have a serial console to capture the out

Re: On recent crashes

2005-06-29 Thread Matt Juszczak
If you experience panics on FreeBSD then you need to follow the advice in the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging and obtain the necessary information so that a developer can begin to investigate this problem. I've tried :-( It locks up before it can do a dump. _

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Yes, SMP is enabled, as is implied by the kernel config tag. (Very busy compilation, web and database server) Are you using PF? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Some people suggested so - pf is supposed to be faster then IPFILTER. However if you are experiencing machine freezing like I did on 5.4-STABLE I'm not sure this will help - if nothing else helps try 6.0-CURRENT. I've also noticed that it is running much faster with all debuging enabled then reg

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Hi, I have something like 20 boxes (Dell Power Edge 370, Fujitsu-Siemens PRIMERGY 200 and couple of dual AMD64 Fujitsu-Siemens) servers running 5.4-STABLE. So far, only machine that I have experienced freezing and was unable to get droped into KDB or to get any sort of vmcore was Dell Power E

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Only way to find out is to try. You could build and install the non-SMP kernel and reboot when you can, or let it boot the new kernel next time the system(s) crash. A lot of the issues seem to be SMP-related. I really loaded up a GENERIC 5.4 kernel and wasn't able to get it to panic. What do you

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Matt, Sadly the FreeBSD guys will need more info before a fix is possible. I would suggest you revert back to FreeBSD 5.3, if you can. Even if you get a patch you'd want to do a whole lot of regression testing before putting it in production as it might break something else. Gary, Do you kn

RE: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Please try out this patch to aid the above problem with hang instead of dump: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c.diff?r1=1.275&r2=1.276 This box is now crashing once every 12 hours. I can't apply this patch :-(. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can work a

RE: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Please try out this patch to aid the above problem with hang instead of dump: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c.diff?r1=1.275&r2=1.276 This patch wouldn't go through I tried patching against: __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c,v 1.267.2.3 2005/05/

Re: On recent crashes

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
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Re: On recent crashes

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
heavily loaded database servers. none of them ever crash. Matt Juszczak wrote: Other people I've seen complain seem to be running SMP Not sure if that has anything to do with it but its the only similiarity I can pull out from any responses I've gotten. I have 5 modest

Re: On recent crashes

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Vivek Khera wrote: On Jun 28, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Alex Povolotsky wrote: Can anyone enlighten me, if recent crashes are on STABLE only or 5.4-RELEASE is affected as well? I have three boxes running 5.4-RELEASE. one is a mediumly-loaded web server, and two are very heavily loaded database

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
fsck -y# or fsck and read every question, if you're paranoid mount -f /# remounts root read/write mount /var savecore /var/crash exit Gary Gary: After it crashes, it locks up and hangs, no keyboard response, etc. When I reboot, I go into single user mode and do: fsck -p moun

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Gavin Atkinson wrote: On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 10:49 -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:01:09AM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: M> About three weeks ago, I upgraded my 5.3-RELEASE boxes to 5.4-RELEASE. M> I also turned on procmail globally

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:01:09AM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: M> About three weeks ago, I upgraded my 5.3-RELEASE boxes to 5.4-RELEASE. M> I also turned on procmail globally on our mail server. Here is our M> current FreeBSD server setup: M> M> URANUS

Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-27 Thread Matt Juszczak
Can you please build kernel with debugging and obtain a crashdump? High activity on the box today caused us to be able to crash it again within 9 hours. I configured all steps per the developers handbook, but when I went to do savecore, it said "no dumps". It appears the machine is complet

FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.

2005-06-26 Thread Matt Juszczak
now I am stuck. I have two -STABLE machines which continue to cause kernel traps. Tomorrow, I am going to compile a debugging kernel on orion and try to let it crash again to see what kind of errors it reports, but I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing these problems. Thanks in