On 04/06/2012 00:30, Mark Andrews wrote:
> The ports system defaults are to use a common build/runtime tree
> but at the cost of a little more disk space each major application
> could have its own build/runtime tree. This is a tradeoff. Most
> of the time having a shared set of libraries is a wi
Hi all,
I wonder if there is someone who managed to install Opensmtpd + Spamd + Pf
+ Imap + SquirrelMail.
I have already installed Opensmtpd as demon sending emails because i dont
have domain yet i will buy it in two days and i will try to install it and
write about it ( howto ) on my page but ear
In message <3851080.jqjobqx...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes:
>yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports
>tree. Your client asks for something for Monday morning for which
>you need now a program which needs some kind of PNG but you did not
>install it.
It seems to me t
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 07:49:02AM +0700, Erich wrote:
> can you still install the ports tree and its applications on a FreeBSD 4.4?
No. When 4.11 finally went EOL on 01/31/2007 we removed all the compatiblity
code, because by that time supporting both was increasing the maintenance
burden on our
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:24:11PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
> I see features and pkgng and things being offered up as solutions...
> these are all well and good, but in my opinion more comprehensive
> documentation and support in these areas would do more good than pkgng.
IMHO pkgng and optionsng
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:31:19PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> Once the base system supports binary upgrades of packages through pkgng
> it should solve a lot of issues that people have with production systems
> now
IMHO, s/solve/expose/ :-) It will then be up to use to solve them.
mcl
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Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 8:45:59 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> On the other hand Ubuntu recently switched their Window manager, and I
> hated it on their early versions. They also offered gnome3, and it just
> wasn't working. So I dare not go beyond Ubuntu 10.04, and I fear the
> day 10.04
Gary Palmer writes:
> Have you looked at VirtualBox? /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose
> Its not a fully featured replacement for vSphere (e.g. no equivalent
> of vMotion) but it is a perfectly workable virtualisation solution
> for a number of situations.
I don't necessarily need vMotion. Tha
I use FreeBSD because it was the first Intel based unix I tried. A
friend of mine suggested I try FreeBSD instead of Linux.
More recently I have had to start using Linux because FreeBSD doesn't
have very good laptop support. (All I ask for is a way to configure the
mouse pad so that I can sw
Hi,
On 30 May 2012 PM 7:20:31 David Chisnall wrote:
>
> This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending it to
> this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users.
>
> I am currently looking at updating some of our advocacy material (which
> advertises
In message <7199276.kar7u8d...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes:
> Hi,
>
> On 03 June 2012 PM 3:19:14 Doug Barton wrote:
> > On 06/03/2012 05:43, Erich wrote:
> > > it is new to me that Microsoft asks for a Windows update when a new
> > > Office version appears at the scene.
> >
> > Actually it's
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 3:19:14 Doug Barton wrote:
> On 06/03/2012 05:43, Erich wrote:
> > it is new to me that Microsoft asks for a Windows update when a new
> > Office version appears at the scene.
>
> Actually it's very common for Windows applications to specify a minimum
> OS service pack leve
In message <2156532.vx6shro...@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes:
> Hi,
>
> On 03 June 2012 AM 9:15:14 Chris Rees wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 2012 5:26 AM, "Erich" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 02 June 2012 PM 2:56:01 Chris Nehren wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mathe
On 06/03/2012 05:43, Erich wrote:
> it is new to me that Microsoft asks for a Windows update when a new
> Office version appears at the scene.
Actually it's very common for Windows applications to specify a minimum
OS service pack level. To stretch the analogy a bit, you're also not
going to find
On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Chris Nehren wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote:
>> I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user. I know I get
>> somewhat leery of updating my ports if I see a large number of changes
>> coming via portsnap (like the 4000+ that a
I think, this is the old thread:
http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/High-load-event-idl-td5671431.html
The interrupt rerouting does not help?
On 6/3/12, Matt Thyer wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2012 11:27 PM, "Albert Shih" wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I already post a message about my problem
>>
>> I've three
on 03/06/2012 17:56 Bryan Drewery said the following:
>
>
> On 5/31/2012 3:45 PM, Chris Nehren wrote:
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 17:20:04 +0200 , Oliver Fromme wrote: And
>> speaking of Solaris features...
>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 19:13:32 +0100 , Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>> This sort of opera
On 06/03/12 15:12, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Adam Strohl
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/3/2012 17:51, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>>
>>> Always I am stressing that to manage FreeBSD, a fair amount of expertise
>>> is required which I think this level may be reduced by im
On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
>>> What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is
>>> it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply
>>> ignored by the
On Jun 1, 2012 11:27 PM, "Albert Shih" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I already post a message about my problem
>
> I've three PC, all are Dell. Two laptop and one desktop.
>
> All run FreeBSD 9-Stable amd64
>
> Since 1 or 2 months I notice the load is never drop down 0.8-0.9 event
when
> nothing running but o
On 3-6-2012 9:58, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 03/06/2012 02:21, Erich wrote:
>> I do not believe that much more would be needed. Of course, we have
>> then a huge number of versions. Would it matter? Give the ports tree
>> the major version number of the latest release. So, at the moment it
>> woul
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:56:00 -0500 , Bryan Drewery wrote:
> ZFS Boot Environments are supported even without the HEAD changes.
>
> Some ports/scripts to assist:
>
> beadm Solaris-like script:
> sysutils/beadm (see http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=31662)
>
> Another:
> manageBE (htt
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On 6/3/2012 19:24, Erich wrote:
yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports tree. Your
client asks for something for Monday morning for which you need now a program
which needs some kind of PNG but you did not install it.
Do you have a machine that is fast enough to up
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I am not a computer educated person but maybe I am like your professor (I
am in genetics).
I start with DOS, OS/2, Linux and last three years I am on FreeBSD. I don't
have a server but I use console a lot, Fluxbox and KDE.
I never tried PC BSD but it is FreeBSD and because that I will recommended
h
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:07:23 +0300
Alexander Yerenkow wrote:
> I'll try to be short.
> I'm using FreeBSD both at servers and as a desktop, but I see
> struggling of my friends with it in some things.
>
> 1. Ports mess. You can very easily render system unusable, or broken
> if you trying to use l
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:55 +0200
Kurt Jaeger wrote:
>
> - Windows Terminalserver functionality
>
If you mean the lack of something similar in regards to reconnecting
sessions, you may find xpra to be of interest to you.
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On 5/31/2012 3:45 PM, Chris Nehren wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 17:20:04 +0200 , Oliver Fromme wrote:
> And speaking of Solaris features...
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 19:13:32 +0100 , Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> This sort of operation is something
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 AM 6:12:38 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Adam Strohl
> wrote:
>
> > On 6/3/2012 17:51, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> >
> Linux : ( Fedora , Mandriva , Mageia , and many others ) Wonderful . I can
are you talking about the Fedora I have insta
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Erich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
>> > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple.
>> > Is it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply
>>
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
> > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is
> > it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply
> > ignored by the people who set the strategy for FreeBS
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
> > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is
> > it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply
> > ignored by the people who set the strategy for FreeBS
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Adam Strohl
wrote:
> On 6/3/2012 17:51, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>
>> Always I am stressing that to manage FreeBSD, a fair amount of expertise
>> is required which I think this level may be reduced by improving the
>> FreeBSD management by transferring knowledg
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:08:44 Adam Strohl wrote:
> On 6/3/2012 10:09, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:43:43AM +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> >> So there could be lots of overlap and just looking at the two numbers
> >> you posted doesn't really tell the whole story.
> > No, I ag
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 AM 9:15:14 Chris Rees wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2012 5:26 AM, "Erich" wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 02 June 2012 PM 2:56:01 Chris Nehren wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user. I know I get
On 6/3/2012 17:51, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
Always I am stressing that to manage FreeBSD, a fair amount of expertise
is required which I think this level may be reduced by improving the
FreeBSD management by transferring knowledge to its managing parts ( for
example : package management , re
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Adam Strohl
wrote:
> On 6/3/2012 10:09, Mark Linimon wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:43:43AM +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>>
>>> So there could be lots of overlap and just looking at the two numbers
>>> you posted doesn't really tell the whole story.
>>>
>> No
On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple. Is it
just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simply ignored by
the people who set the strategy for FreeBSD?
I mention since yeares here that putting version numbers on
On 6/3/2012 10:09, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:43:43AM +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
So there could be lots of overlap and just looking at the two numbers
you posted doesn't really tell the whole story.
No, I agree that it doesn't. I was just trying to add an aside, and
point
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Erich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02 June 2012 PM 9:50:22 Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > > The point he made was actually not a matter of people not reading
> > > UPDATING but that UPDATING is oftentimes not updated until after
> > > the disruptive/potentially dangerou
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On Jun 3, 2012 5:26 AM, "Erich" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 02 June 2012 PM 2:56:01 Chris Nehren wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 14:11:06 -0400 , Paul Mather wrote:
> > > I'm not sure what the solution is for the end user. I know I get
> > > somewhat leery of updating my ports if I see a large numbe
On Jun 3, 2012 4:39 AM, "Erich" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 02 June 2012 PM 4:07:23 Alexander Yerenkow wrote:
> > I'll try to be short.
> > I'm using FreeBSD both at servers and as a desktop, but I see
> > struggling of my friends with it in some things.
> >
> > 1. Ports mess. You can very easily render
Hi,
2012/6/3 Erich :
> [...]
>> I witnessed those cases several times and at this moment, our four
>> remaining FreeBSD servers and my personal desktop as well as my private
>> box are rendered "unusable" in terms of having no LibreOffice since it
>> doesn't compile anymore on FreeBSD 9-STABLE/amd
On 03/06/2012 02:21, Erich wrote:
>> 2. No decent packet manager (I hope pkgng will make life easier). You
>> > can't just upgrade this and that packet and see what's new, and
>> > rollback if you don't like somthing .
> I really hope this will never come. Why? It will kill make install.
> Make in
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