Re: rawio 1.1 on FreeBSD 4.2-BETA?

2000-11-19 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:14 PM +1030 2000/11/19, Greg Lehey wrote: > There is a PR. I'm not sure under what circumstances it fails. This > is, in fact, a bug in the port, not in rawio: it's in files/patch-ac. > It should work fine if you delete this patch and then make clean and > rebuild. Ahh, okay.

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot [not only laptop!]

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gerd Knops writes: : The 4.2 Beta CD does not boot on a system that has a MultiTech : MT5634ZPX PCI (aka ActionTec 56k FAX PCI Modem) modem card (yes, that : one has a controller and is supported by FreeBSD). Interestingly, once : the system is installed, the c

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: : I wonder how long the current Microsoft partition table has to live, : anyway? Sooner or later people are going to have to move to LBA : addressing, or disks will get so big that the partition table can't : address them. Then, hopefully, we'll

Re: 4.2 Beta Broke ahc Support for AHA2842

2000-11-19 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
>My old kernel, vintage 4.1.1, works fine with my three old Adaptec SCSI host >bus adapters, two AHA1742A's and an AHA2842VL (yes, it's an old motherboard). This was actually fixed a while back (week ago?) for EISA adapters. If you card still doesn't work, please let me know. -- Justin To

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 20-Nov-00 Greg Lehey wrote: > OK, the more this thread continues, the more it's looking as if we're > talking about different things. I don't have (much) of an objection > to removing it from sysinstall. If that's all we're talking about, I > don't have any further objections. But I sti

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 November 2000 at 17:50:48 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel O'Connor" writes: >> At least remove the option from sysinstall so new users don't get >> stuck with it. > > I strongly support this. It has burned me on several machines. > > I don't think

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 November 2000 at 17:48:14 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: >> They waste space. In most cases, they're not needed. Isn't that >> enough? > > No. Writing in 'C' isn't necesary and wastes space. That, in and of > itself, isn't a reason t

Re: RC1 install size

2000-11-19 Thread Roelof Osinga
Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Erm, I guess the practice of providing details has fallen out of > fashion or something since I still have NO IDEA what you are referring > ... Well, one step further. Using the 4.1.1.-RELEASE or something I did/noticed the following: 8 <> 7 (on 4.2) conflicts after ke

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot [not only laptop!]

2000-11-19 Thread Gerd Knops
Just as a (possibly related) side note: The 4.2 Beta CD does not boot on a system that has a MultiTech MT5634ZPX PCI (aka ActionTec 56k FAX PCI Modem) modem card (yes, that one has a controller and is supported by FreeBSD). Interestingly, once the system is installed, the card can be replac

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 November 2000 at 18:50:40 -0600, Jim King wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > >>> Why is DD ever _needed_? >> >> Because Microsoft partition tables waste space. > > That's a really weak argument, given the price and size of drives > nowadays. It's a matter of principle. Why waste? Greg -

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Jim King
Greg Lehey wrote: > > Why is DD ever _needed_? > > Because Microsoft partition tables waste space. That's a really weak argument, given the price and size of drives nowadays. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel O'Connor" writes: : At least remove the option from sysinstall so new users don't get : stuck with it. I strongly support this. It has burned me on several machines. I don't think that anyone will remove it from the kernel... Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: : They waste space. In most cases, they're not needed. Isn't that : enough? No. Writing in 'C' isn't necesary and wastes space. That, in and of itself, isn't a reason to not use it. But like mike said, it was the ability to create these for t

Re: Dangerously Dedicated

2000-11-19 Thread Brandon Fosdick
Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David O'Brien" > writes: > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:55:29PM +0100, Roelof Osinga wrote: > > > Yesterday I installed the 4.2 RC1 in dangerously dedicated > > > mode on a SCSI disk I had lying around. > > > > Why

Re: 4.2-RC1 not (easily) bootable

2000-11-19 Thread Jamil Taylor
David O'Brien wrote: > Why did you choose a "dangerously dedicated" install? "dangerously > dedicated" might go away in the future (as it doesn't leave space enough > space for boot0). Unless the normal slice configuration won't work for > you, there really is no good reason to use "dangerously

Dangerously Dedicated

2000-11-19 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David O'Brien" writes: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:55:29PM +0100, Roelof Osinga wrote: > > Yesterday I installed the 4.2 RC1 in dangerously dedicated > > mode on a SCSI disk I had lying around. > > Why did you choose a "dangerously dedicated" install? "dangerou

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:35:27AM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > I'm sure to be off my rocker to suggest something like this 2 days > before -RELEASE, but sometimes I don't clean up after installing a port ^^ WHY are you post

Re: 4.2-RC1 not (easily) bootable

2000-11-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:55:29PM +0100, Roelof Osinga wrote: > Yesterday I installed the 4.2 RC1 in dangerously dedicated > mode on a SCSI disk I had lying around. Why did you choose a "dangerously dedicated" install? "dangerously dedicated" might go away in the future (as it doesn't leave spa

Re: StarOffice 5.2

2000-11-19 Thread George Richard Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > So if you can get it (staroffice52) to browse, would you be so kind as to > tell me what you did to get it to work. Used a local caching proxy, /usr/ports/www/wwwoffle Seems fine George Russell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread Jing-Tang Keith Jang
On 11/19/00, Roelof Osinga wrote: > Jing-Tang Keith Jang wrote: > > -- > > Keep it simple and stupid. > > A little off topic, but... This is too nice for an old USA army > expression (genie forces). Try: > > Keep It Simple, Stupid! This is intentional. :-) -- Keep it simple and stupid. To

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James writes: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 03:11:38PM +0800, Jing-Tang Keith Jang wrote: > > On 11/18/00, James wrote: > > > Or for a much faster solution: > > > find /usr/ports -type d -name work -prune -print -exec rm -r {} \; > > > > why not just "cd /usr/ports; rm

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jing-Tang Keith Jang wri tes: > On 11/18/00, James wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:35:27AM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > > > # find /usr/ports -type d -name work -print -execdir make clean \; -prune > > > > > > is much faster than "make clean" from the top. It

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread Roelof Osinga
Jing-Tang Keith Jang wrote: > > -- > Keep it simple and stupid. A little off topic, but... This is too nice for an old USA army expression (genie forces). Try: Keep It Simple, Stupid! Roelof To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the

4.2-RC1 not (easily) bootable

2000-11-19 Thread Roelof Osinga
Yesterday I installed the 4.2 RC1 in dangerously dedicated mode on a SCSI disk I had lying around. Loo and behold, on booting I got: BTX loader 1.00 (BTX version 1.01) Error Client format not supported Same old, same old. I remembered having had to deal with just this somewhere in the 3.x r

Re: cd /usr/ports; make clean

2000-11-19 Thread Maxime Henrion
That's because the make clean in /usr/ports follows the dependencies which makes it clean a lot of ports several times... What you can try is to do a make -DNOCLEANDEPENDS clean. Regards, Maxime Henrion David Kelly wrote: > I'm sure to be off my rocker to suggest something like this 2 days > b

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-19 Thread mike ryan
On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mike ryan writes: > : On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: > : > This won't be changed. polling works on more systems than a specific > : > IRQ, and the IRQ to use varies so widely that any choice is likely to > : > be wrong. > : are the