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I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all
of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and safer.
In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp.
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freebsd-security@freebsd
Why remove telnet and FTP?
Sure--it's insecure if you're using it over the internet, but I use it on
my laptop at least a few times per year.
I have a small 8-port switch where I plug in my laptop, then plug in an APC
UPS and access it via telnet (and use FTP as well) to upgrade the firmware
from
On Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Robert Simmons wrote:
Lolz, right? :-
> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove
all
> of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and
safer.
Because nobody has a 32bit computer nowadays??? Similarly, you got any
emp
Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and software
technologies, still very much in use today.
Luke Crooks
Solent Wholesale Carpets
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, 17:58 Robert Simmons, wrote:
> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all
> of it.
I am and am not. Ubuntu has made this choice recently. I doubt I am alone
in my thinking. I fully expected instant pushback on both suggestions.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 13:29 Luke Crooks wrote:
> Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and
> software technologies, still very
The safer part of my speculation is specifically based on being less code
to maintain overall. More resources devoted to a smaller code base.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:26 PM Igor Mozolevsky
wrote:
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> On Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> Lolz, right? :-
>
> > I wonder if FreeB
Ubuntu made the decision, then rolled it back (partially) due to community
outcry. (https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/)
If your reason for wanting to drop support is "Ubuntu is doing it", my
response would be "cool story bro".
Can you state what you are trying to accomplish by d
Yes, to reduce the code base complexity so that resources can be focused on
a smaller code base.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:06 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
wrote:
> Ubuntu made the decision, then rolled it back (partially) due to community
> outcry. (https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/
> From: owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> secur...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron C. de Bruyn via freebsd-
> security
> Subject: Re: Old Stuff
>
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:58 AM Robert Simmons wrote:
>
>> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:09 PM Robert Simmons wrote:
> Yes, to reduce the code base complexity so that resources can be focused
> on a smaller code base.
>
That seems like several completely different arguments. Codebase
complexity, available resources, and "a smaller code base".
So why does
I have the feeling that the FreeBSD-userbase and the Ubuntu-userbase
differs. And the rollback is probably mostly because Steam threatened to
drop support for Ubuntu. Does FreeBSD have a native Steam-client?
Loosing wine-support might hurt but my guess is that it still wouldn't
be that bad.
I'd pre
You're correct. I did make two separate suggestion in the same email. My
suggestion about ftp and telnet is not based on code base complexity. I'm
only using that argument for dropping 32bit.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:17 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:09 PM Robert Simmo
"Wall, Stephen" writes:
>> From: owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
>> secur...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron C. de Bruyn via freebsd-
>> security
>> Subject: Re: Old Stuff
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:58 AM Robert Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop
In message
Robert Simmons wrote:
>I am and am not. Ubuntu has made this choice recently. I doubt I am alone
>in my thinking. I fully expected instant pushback on both suggestions.
Ubuntu removed telnet and ftp??
Somebody alert the media.
Regards,
rfg
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24.07.2019 23:57, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit?
Not yet.
> Clean out and remove all of it. It should make the code base easier to
> maintain, cleaner, and safer.
And it would impossible to run FreeBSD for 32 bit platforms such as MIPS32
or i386-base
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all
> of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and safer.
>
> In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp.
Please
25.07.2019 1:46, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I am and am not. Ubuntu has made this choice recently. I doubt I am alone
> in my thinking. I fully expected instant pushback on both suggestions.
Why do you refer to Ubuntu? They don't have many tools in their base
that real networking unix box must have
On July 24, 2019 12:09:12 PM PDT, Robert Simmons wrote:
>Yes, to reduce the code base complexity so that resources can be
>focused on
>a smaller code base.
>
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:06 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
>wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu made the decision, then rolled it back (partially) due to
>community
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 20:09, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> Yes, to reduce the code base complexity so that resources can be focused on
> a smaller code base.
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:06 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
> wrote:
>
> > Ubuntu made the decision, then rolled it back (partially) due to community
On July 24, 2019 10:29:12 AM PDT, Luke Crooks wrote:
>Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and
>software
>technologies, still very much in use today.
>
>
>
>Luke Crooks
>Solent Wholesale Carpets
>
>On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, 17:58 Robert Simmons, wrote:
>
>> I wonder if FreeBS
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> >Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and
> >software
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> >Solent Wholesale Carpets
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