Re: Retiring portsnap [was MITM attacks against portsnap and freebsd-update]

2014-04-28 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 06:48:07AM -0500, David Noel wrote: > > [snip a bunch of stuff] Great. I'll start looking at stuff this week, then probably ping you off-list to ask questions. Now I just need to add a note about this to my todo-queue so I don't make a liar of myself.

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
at "variable" has been initialized by that point in the > code? I do believe you are right . . . at least until the code needs to be edited for some reason. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebs

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
does not have at least 10% assert > > lines, you're not really serious about security. > > People get really pissed off when I put asserts into OpenSSL. > > Perhaps they'll have a different opinion now. . . . or maybe we'll all end up using LibreSSL in the not-

Re: Retiring portsnap [was MITM attacks against portsnap and freebsd-update]

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
atch it. Would you be willing to put the time into training up someone to do that work? I'm a bit of a fixer-upper, but I am willing and eager to contribute. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
es. While I'm letting myself get embroiled in this, I have a question: Do you claim that the Clang static analyzer is essentially worthless for finding and fixing security-related bugs because it is more trouble to make use of its output than its output is worth, or does it only *seem* l

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
e, and this might in turn help me find where more dire problems lurk in the dusty corners of my code. I consider that a win, and as such I appreciate the benefits of Clang's static analyzer as a tool that, coupled with human judgment (flawed though it may be), can help me wri

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
ald and "hcoin", not you. Thanks for clarifying that. For a moment there, I was actually confused. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.fr

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-24 Thread Chad Perrin
readability, but it doesn't fix > any security issues. I'm generally of the opinion that, all else being equal, making your code readable is a way to find bugs you did not know existed. Even more amazingly, making your code readable fixes bugs th

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:00:54AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <20140423003400.GA8271@glaze.hydra>, Chad Perrin writes: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:28:57PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > In message , > > > Charles Swiger wrote: > >

Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole?

2014-04-22 Thread Chad Perrin
, perhaps you could run this same analysis on > that code too, and report numbers for that as well. > > I am *not* looking forward to the day when I'll be rooted because I was > watching funny kitten videos on YouTube. Solution: Dont' watch funny kitten videos on YouTube. I

Re: Anything in this story of concern?

2013-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
to *trust* the CAs . . . and I do not. They are simply not trustworthy. This seems like a problem that would make the transition to domain registries quite intact, based on what I know of the situation. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] __

Re: SSL is broken on FreeBSD

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Perrin
if someone has an argument more compelling than Istvan's. (This ignores the notion that there are simply better ways to validate certs than via CA trust, which is a somewhat separate issue.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpu4TE1qOB8l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: SSL is broken on FreeBSD

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Perrin
ly affected you -- and, on the other, taking some faceless third party's assurances on issues of cryptographic trust and discovering that refusing to take responsibility for your own decisions about trust has placed your security at the mercy of untrustworthy people. -- Chad Perrin [ origi

Re: SSL is broken on FreeBSD

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Perrin
ank you in advance. You clearly did not actually read what I said. You read *into* it, creating the impression of some straw man argument in your own head, and responded to that. This is not a productive way to discuss matters of security. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL:

Re: SSL is broken on FreeBSD

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Perrin
en you are connecting to a site using an encryption certificate you have not already told it to trust one way or another. If you just uncritically add all the CAs in the world to a trusted list, all you are doing is turning off those warnings. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http:

Re: SSL is broken on FreeBSD

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Perrin
eir own decisions about who to trust, rather than relying on Verisign to make that decision for them. I'm just speculating wildly -- I actually have no idea. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp4SxvhxpdLO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: It's not possible to allow non-OPIE logins only from trusted networks

2011-03-11 Thread Chad Perrin
tion into the base system of any BSD Unix system. It's GPLed software. If people want it in FreeBSD, it should go into ports. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpDIHjWxmqJj.pgp Description: PGP signature