RE: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Mark Picone
Since the security team have had the procedure of publishing security advisories for vulnerabilities once a fix available: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/security-advisories.html -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
Allright :-) I was just thinking aloud.. not necessairly "the" but rather "something alike" CIS Benchmarks.. I was using them several times and found people also keen to use them as security measure before implementation :-) It is nice to see SA anyway and know things get improved.. it would be al

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
CeDeROM writes: > You have this idea to remove local denial of service advisories. No. With very few (imho unfortunate) exceptions, we have *never* issued advisories for local DoS exploits. So we're not taking anything away from you. > My idea is to move them into benchmarks/recommendations su

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
You have this idea to remove local denial of service advisories. I can understand that. :-) My idea is to move them into benchmarks/recommendations such as CIS, not to /dev/null, as they also provide useful information for users and administrators. CIS-like organization of the local/configuration

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
CeDeROM writes: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > > CeDeROM writes: > > > I think it would be nice to have something like CIS Benchmark for > > > FreeBSD. > > https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/downloads/multiform/ > Perfect :-) This is the place for benchmarking "advisories for local > denial-of-s

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > CeDeROM writes: >> I think it would be nice to have something like CIS Benchmark for >> FreeBSD. > https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/downloads/multiform/ > Right between "Docker" and "FreeRadius" Perfect :-) This is the place for benc

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
CeDeROM writes: > I think it would be nice to have something like CIS Benchmark for > FreeBSD. https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/downloads/multiform/ Right between "Docker" and "FreeRadius" DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___ freebsd-securit

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > That's like asking for a list of ways you can hurt yourself in your own > home. I could list a hundred, and there would still be thousands more I > didn't think of. I think it would be nice to have something like CIS Benchmark for Fre

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
CeDeROM writes: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > > [...] there are a million ways for a trusted unprivileged user to > > cause a DoS, and most of them aren't even bugs. Some of them can be > > mitigated using quotas or resource limits, but far from all. > Maybe a dedicated place/list for those..?

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Robert N.M. Watson
On 26 Oct 2016, at 10:42, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > CeDeROM writes: >> Robert N. M. Watson writes: >>> In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories >>> for local denial-of-service attacks, (..) >> I would prefer to get that information regardless of individual >> prefer

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > CeDeROM writes: >> Robert N. M. Watson writes: >> > In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories >> > for local denial-of-service attacks, (..) >> I would prefer to get that information regardless of individual

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
CeDeROM writes: > Robert N. M. Watson writes: > > In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories > > for local denial-of-service attacks, (..) > I would prefer to get that information regardless of individual > preferences. It's not a matter of individual preference. During

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Robert N. M. Watson wrote: > In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories for local > denial-of-service attacks, (..) I would prefer to get that information regardless of individual preferences.. SA tells there is a problem that is at least

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:18:35AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 07:53:44AM +0100, Robert N. M. Watson wrote: > > Hi Pawel: > > > > In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories for > > local denial-of-service attacks, in part because it suggests

Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-16:15.sysarch [REVISED]

2016-10-26 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 07:53:44AM +0100, Robert N. M. Watson wrote: > Hi Pawel: > > In general, my strong recommendation is against issuing advisories for local > denial-of-service attacks, in part because it suggests we consider it a > security guarantee of the system that those problems can b