Re: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread Jon Passki
Could we please kill this thread if it does not have anymore to contribute to FreeBSD security specifically? Jon On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:32 PM, "Rich Healey" wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of

RE: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread Rich Healey
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris Palmer Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 1:14 PM To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OPIE considered insecure Rich Healey writes: > I'm thinking about implementi

Re: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread David Wolfskill
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:19:32PM -0800, Chris Palmer wrote: > ... > Benjamin Lutz writes: > > > Because the inconvience of not using whatever service or data the server is > > providing is considered greater than the security risk. > > But isn't regular password authentication the most conveni

Re: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread Chris Palmer
Michael Ekstrand writes: > Simple use case: checking e-mail from the library/Internet > cafe/relative's house. With Mutt or Gnus. So we're talking about a case in which we don't want attackers who own the untrustworthy client to know our password, but we are okay with them reading and forging th

Re: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Chris Palmer writes: > Rich Healey writes: >> I'm thinking about implementing OPIE, but after reading this I'm not so >> sure. What's consensus on the best approach to one time logins? > > Why are people logging into their remote servers from assumed-untrustworthy > clients at all? Simple use cas

Re: OPIE considered insecure

2009-03-02 Thread Benjamin Lutz
On Monday 02 March 2009 03:14:15 Chris Palmer wrote: > Why are people logging into their remote servers from > assumed-untrustworthy clients at all? Because the inconvience of not using whatever service or data the server is providing is considered greater than the security risk. Cheers Benjamin