Re: "Light" word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:47:04 -0500, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > Maybe because 20+ years ago I learnt wordstar, so if > you grew up on pointin' & clickin' you'll be sorely dis- > appointed, but I enjoy the jstar mode of editors/joe > (or actually editors/jupp, some dif'rence, mostly). Fully agree for

Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:56:21 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: > I don't see a way to force refetch of the actual ports files > like "distinfo" when portsnap thinks the port is up to date. You cansolve the problem of "few per-file mismatches" by using the traditional CVS approach of updating the ports tre

sha-1 Re: Security Incident on FreeBSD Infrastructure

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello. 2012/11/17 10:04:26 + FreeBSD Security Officer => To FreeBSD Security : FSO> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- FSO> Hash: SHA1 What's the state of the art about 'sha-1' digesting with freebsd security? At the least debian seemed to be migratring since 2009: http://www.debian-admi

Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-17 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:10:23 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > XP itself, when running directly on the hardware, provides its own > graphics environment. It should be able to do the same running on > a VM with a virtualized keyboard, mouse, and display. Yes, but the virtualised displa

Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:10:23 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Fbsd8 > > wrote: > > > I do not run x11 or any desktop on my 9.0 host. > > > > This would be your problem. > > How so? Surely virtualbox _should_ be able to hand off a

Re: confessions of a FreeBSD purist

2012-11-17 Thread andrew clarke
On Sat 2012-11-17 01:28:02 UTC-0500, Matthew Pope (mp...@teksavvy.com) wrote: > Could anyone be kind enough to recommend a free, or share their own > FreeBSD VM image that has bind pre-configured in a jail, and / or an > Apache web server pre-configured in a jail, for a non-commercial site? I

Security advisory FreeBSD - intrusion incident

2012-11-17 Thread jb
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Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:56:21 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I don't see a way to force refetch of the actual ports files >> like "distinfo" when portsnap thinks the port is up to date. > > You cansolve the problem of "few per-file mismatches" by

FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-17 Thread Snow Mountains
Hello, I'm about to upgrade hardware on my desktop and to install FreeBSD 9 on it. I have ASUS P5KPL-C and want to buy a SSD or SATA-III 6Gb/s drive for it. Please advise me: * does it make sense to buy SSD drive for a mb that supports 4x SATA 3Gb/s (of couse, expecting a possible future mb upgr

Re: "Light" word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-17 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:18:41 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Polytropon skrev 2012-11-15 10:12: >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:06:56 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> >>> Hello >>> >>> I mainly use LibreOffice and it works for me. >>> >>> My problem now is that the build time for LibreOffice on a little >>

packge options

2012-11-17 Thread Mike.
How do I find out what options were used when the pre-built packages were built? For example, say I want to install the Postfix package, how can I find out if TLS support is included in the package? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing li

Re: packge options

2012-11-17 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 17 November 2012 12:44, Mike. wrote: > > How do I find out what options were used when the pre-built packages > were built? > > For example, say I want to install the Postfix package, how can I find > out if TLS support is included in the package? > For instance: http://www.freshports.org/mail

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-17 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 17 November 2012 12:26, Snow Mountains wrote: > Hello, > > I'm about to upgrade hardware on my desktop and to install FreeBSD 9 > on it. I have ASUS P5KPL-C and want to buy a SSD or SATA-III 6Gb/s > drive for it. > > Please advise me: > > * does it make sense to buy SSD drive for a mb that supp

zio_trim counter

2012-11-17 Thread Johannes Dieterich
Please CC me as I am not subscribed. Hello, I installed CURRENT on a new Thinkpad equipped with a Samsung 830 SSD: ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-9 SATA 3.x device ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 122104MB

FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread grarpamp
http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/11/17/143219/freebsd-project-discloses-security-breach-via-stolen-ssh-key This is not about this incident, but about why major opensource projects need to be using a repository that has traceable, verifiable, built-in

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Aitken
On 11/16/12 21:38, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 11/16/12 12:10, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> Additional SSD suggestions: when creating partitions, leave out the swap >>> partition. If you have lots of memory, leave out the /tmp partition. Add >>> that extra

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-17 Thread Snow Mountains
2012/11/17 ill...@gmail.com : > On 17 November 2012 12:26, Snow Mountains wrote: >> * How will FreeBSD 9 behave in such situations? Any special tweaking needed? > > I wouldn't expect any special behaviour, though you need to take care > with block alignment. Perhaps in the future FreeBSD will hav

wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Aitken
Looking to update wine-fbsd64: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 ===>>> No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information ===>>> about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in /usr/ports/MOVED hints? ___ freebsd-questions@

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Sat, 17 Nov 2012 15:00:06 -0500 grarpamp пишет: > http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html > http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/11/17/143219/freebsd-project-discloses-security-breach-via-stolen-ssh-key > > This is not about this incident, but about why major opensource > projects need to

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-17 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: On 11/16/12 21:38, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: On 11/16/12 12:10, Warren Block wrote: Additional SSD suggestions: when creating partitions, leave out the swap partition. If you have lots of memory, leave out the /tmp p

Re: ports: deinstall-all

2012-11-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 11/13/2012 09:02 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: If you really want to remove all installed ports you can do as I do pkg_delete -f \* Perhaps not an ideal solution, but rather an alternative one, which works in bourn-derived shells: # for p in `pkg_info -ao | grep '.*/.*' | sed 's;.*;/usr/ports/

Re: confessions of a FreeBSD purist

2012-11-17 Thread Eric S Pulley
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:28:02 -0500 Matthew Pope wrote: > Dear FreeBSD community, > > It has been wonderful being a full-fledged member of this community, > an administrator running FreeBSD on bare hardware (in his basement) > for years. This is the coolest, hippiest, historically pure, and > mo

Re: ports: deinstall-all

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On November 17, 2012 11:25:11 PM +0200 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 11/13/2012 09:02 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: If you really want to remove all installed ports you can do as I do pkg_delete -f \* Perhaps not an ideal solution, but rather an alternative one, which works in bourn-derived shel

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Aitken
On 11/17/12 14:08, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 11/16/12 21:38, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> On 11/16/12 12:10, Warren Block wrote: > Additional SSD suggestions: when creating partitions, leave out the sw

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-17 Thread Shane Ambler
On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite consistent) advises on the net on how to do it with gpart/new

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-17 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: There was a nice Sun white paper by Peter Snyder on tmpfs. It's linked on the Wikipedia tmpfs page, but Oracle has broken the link. Google has a rendered version of a PostScript copy (long URL): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EXMe

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Aitken
On 11/17/12 19:50, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: > >>> There was a nice Sun white paper by Peter Snyder on tmpfs. It's linked on >>> the Wikipedia tmpfs page, but Oracle has broken the link. Google has a >>> rendered version of a PostScript copy (long URL): >>>

Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread Bernt Hansson
2012-11-17 05:56, Gary Aitken skrev: so, after updating bios, repartitioning, etc, things seem to be stable, modulo the following: decided to rebuild ports for peace of mind, but my basic ports tree is hosed: # portmaster -t --clean-distfiles ... "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.php.mk", line

Re: confessions of a FreeBSD purist

2012-11-17 Thread Matthew Pope
On 12-11-17 09:07 AM, andrew clarke wrote: On Sat 2012-11-17 01:28:02 UTC-0500, Matthew Pope (mp...@teksavvy.com) wrote: Could anyone be kind enough to recommend a free, or share their own FreeBSD VM image that has bind pre-configured in a jail, and / or an Apache web server pre-configured in a

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
[snip] There's a git repository. It's public. You can look at what goes into the FreeBSD git clone to get your assurance that things aren't being snuck in. People are using it, right now. Honestly, I'd rather see subversion grow this kind of cryptographic signing of each commit in the short term

Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread Bernt Hansson
2012-11-18 05:14, Bernt Hansson skrev: There is a readme file too. ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/README.TXT ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Those who want to use git can use it, right now. Honest. Yup: https://github.com/freebsd/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:51:11 +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:56:21 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> I don't see a way to force refetch of the actual ports files > >> like "distinfo" when portsnap thinks the port is up to date

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread grarpamp
>> joerg_wun...@uriah.heep.sax.de > You don't even have a name Your domain indicates Germany, please have a chat with CCC.de about the various good uses for nyms. And consult your library for some fine historical use cases. If that's counter to your beliefs, you are free to show us the way and pos

Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?

2012-11-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:57:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-11-18 05:14, Bernt Hansson skrev: > > There is a readme file too. > > ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/README.TXT Which mentions the evil cvsup... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra

Problem with installing coreutils port

2012-11-17 Thread Manish Jain
Hello All, I recently had to re-install FreeBSD on my system. I installed FreeBSD-8.3-i386 and successfully managed to install all ports except one - the sysutils/coreutils port. Underneath is the error I get : gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils/work/coreutils-8.20

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Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:59:54 -0500, grarpamp wrote: > > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > > As well summarized by this (your signature) ... sources you can't > verify to the master are, also, sources you can't trust. Unless. of couse, you are able to "use the sourc

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Bruce Cran
On 18/11/2012 05:21, Robert Simmons wrote: Yup: https://github.com/freebsd/ There's also git.freebsd.org. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send an