Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top level. I'm thinking something between mount, EzJail, the journal and the way MySQL created a

Re: Synchronising jails

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
/usr/ports/net/rsync On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Frank Staals wrote: Hey Everyone, I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case build with

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
does OS X kernel share any code with FreeBSD kernel's memory management subsystem ? IMHO no. OSX is somehow-microkernel based, they did take things from FreeBSD but not this IMHO. anyway - who cares Something is deeply broken in OS X memory management http://workstuff.tumblr.com/post/20464

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
most importantly networking but certainly not memory subsystem. On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:31 AM, jb wrote: does OS X kernel share any code with FreeBSD kernel's memory management subsystem ? The simple answer is no. A more complex answer: % grep -ri fr

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
"2) Inactive memory (which is memory that has been recently used but is no longer) is supposed to be seamlessly reclaimed automatically by the OS when needed for new programs. In practice, I?ve found that this isn?t the case, and my system slows to a crawl and starts paging out to disk when free

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
If you really are having a problem with FreeBSD you are going to have to do a lot better than this in terms of providing some data points which define the problem. I am in agreement with Adam here: either you can work the problem or you can troll. I don't see any indication yet of any real problem

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is relatively new. My guess is that if there is a problem it's ZFS specific. If it were a more general problem I think we'd see a lot more complaints, whereas ZFS already has a reputation for needing lots of memory. you may precisely set up a limits of memory that ZFS would use at most. or just

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread jb
Wojciech Puchar wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes: > > > > > "2) Inactive memory (which is memory that has been recently used but is no > > longer) is supposed to be seamlessly reclaimed automatically by the OS when > > needed for new programs. In practice, I?ve found that this isn?t the case, > >

Re: FreeBSD vice OS X memory management

2012-04-28 Thread jb
Wojciech Puchar wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes: > > > does OS X kernel share any code with FreeBSD kernel's memory management > > subsystem ? > > IMHO no. OSX is somehow-microkernel based, they did take things from > FreeBSD but not this IMHO. > > anyway - who cares > Well, I quoted the so

Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-28 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:41:18 +0200 Polytropon articulated: >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:46:52 -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:58:40 -0600 >> Chad Perrin articulated: >> >> >On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articul

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the >> /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top level. >> I'm thinking somet

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, > >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the > >> /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at

Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:36:03 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:41:18 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:46:52 -0400, Jerry wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:58:40 -0600 > >> Chad Perrin articulated: > >> > >> >On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wr

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >  Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to t

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: >> >>  Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >>> wrote: >>> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >>> >>

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that > >> under high distress and a hard boot, UFS could have somehow corrupted > >> the directory structure, whilst m

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >> >  Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that >> >> under high distress and a hard boot, UFS coul

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > >> wrote: > >> >  Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >> > >> > Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi >> >> wrote: >> >> >  Alejandro Ima

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Jerome Herman
On 28/04/2012 19:52, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Alejandro Imass wrote: After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that under high distress

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Edward M
On 04/28/2012 11:16 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: That is what worries me, is that it wasn't just some random bit or cosmic ray, but the potential of happening again. I am not so sure that it is*impossible* that a jail could affect other jails with EzJail. Sorry I'm late to the party. How about

Re: Performance and mouse problems

2012-04-28 Thread Albert Shih
Le 27/04/2012 ? 12:14:04-0500, Adam Vande More a écrit > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I've got two very strange problem > > > > I'm running 9-stable on a Dell Laptop E4200. > > > > Since this morning when I put a USB mouse (I've try three mouses to be

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, > >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the > >> /usr/local/etc/apa

Re: Performance and mouse problems

2012-04-28 Thread Jerome Herman
On 28/04/2012 22:52, Albert Shih wrote: Le 27/04/2012 ? 12:14:04-0500, Adam Vande More a écrit On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I've got two very strange problem I'm running 9-stable on a Dell Laptop E4200. Since this morning when I put a USB mouse (I've try th

Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-28 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2012-04-24 11:50, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: My daughter is doing a touch typing course that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine with pico, but now they want the kids to practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic), CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use these particular combinations because

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread perryh
Alejandro Imass wrote: > 3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery, > fsck or something else I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because it just doesn't do things like that. It might move an orphaned directory (or file) to lost+found, but nowhere else. T

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> >> the only one with root acces

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:26 AM, wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > [...] > > Any chance that your base system -- rather than one of the jails -- > has somehow been cracked; maybe even that the cracker precipitated > the crash?  It might be wise to restore the whole system from backup, > the ba

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > >> wrote: > >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky >> wrote: [...] >> >> Hi Erich, thanks for your reply. >> >> I don't know what links you are referring to, but please po