Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/02/2012 22:17, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: >>> We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the "old" style >>> default with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 >>> partition and swap. > For a user/desktop machine, I prefer one

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:16:39 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: > > --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to > > have said: > > > >> Well, to be honest, I never liked the "old style" default > >> with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: > It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a > degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a > separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root. I thought of this fact as such a

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 20:22, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root.

ZFS question

2012-02-18 Thread Denis Fortin
Good morning, On a small system using FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, ZFS is reporting an issue on a pool, that I am not certain is really an issue, but I don't know how to investgate... Here is the situation: I have created a ZFS pool on an external 1TB Maxstor USB drive. The ZFS pool sees little or

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/17/12 11:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: > Hiya, [snip] > We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as > one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We > want to know if people would prefer the older style default with four > partitions and swap w

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/17/12 11:40 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Robison, Dave > wrote: >> Hiya, >> >> A question has arisen with the implementation of bsdinstall in 9.x as >> opposed to sysinstall in 8.x and previous versions of FreeBSD. >> >> It has always been FreeBSD's default to

Re: DNS - slaving the root zone

2012-02-18 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > > To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers around > the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't notice if > something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (or zones, depending > on what you choose to slave).

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: > I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will > setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I > probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I > doubt a single partition will cut it (I could

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related > - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system > related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I had > thought... :) There's lots

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:23, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I doubt a s

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:39, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I had

add new encryption algorithm to racoon

2012-02-18 Thread aram_baghomian
Hi, I developed an encryption algorithm for freeBsd crypto module. I want to add this algorithm to racoon ipsec-tools for freebsd that it can recognize it In it's config file and use it for encryption connections. I use the 'des' algorithm as a sample and cr

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: > > > I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under > > /usr > > though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to > > enlighten me? Wha

Re: Adobe Linux Flash (Success)

2012-02-18 Thread sean
On 02/17/12 20:24, Frank Shute wrote: I'd recommend www/xpi-flashblock. You can whitelist sites such as Youtube and the bbc whilst blocking the crappy flash adverts that are a feature of too many sites on the web. Especially useful if you're on a narrowband connection or metered. Regards, Wh

Re: Adobe Linux Flash

2012-02-18 Thread sean
On 02/18/12 01:44, Robert Bonomi wrote: Try: find / -name 'ld-linux.so*' -print (including the single-quotes) If you do _NOT_ get a listing from that, you didn't just delete the symlink, you wiped out the actual shared library, and will have to re-install it. I do get a listing. I wrote in a

Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-02-18 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On 28 January 2012 19:54, Henry Olyer wrote: > I've been using FBSD since 2000 and a Macsyma user since 1976. > > And done my own FBSD installs since 5.1, I think, maybe a few before.  For > those early years I was content to install a lisp and then do my own FTP's, > getting maxima and doing thin

Re: Adobe Linux Flash (Success)

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 23:03, sean wrote: On 02/17/12 20:24, Frank Shute wrote: I'd recommend www/xpi-flashblock. You can whitelist sites such as Youtube and the bbc whilst blocking the crappy flash adverts that are a feature of too many sites on the web. Especially useful if you're on a narrowband conne

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 11:36, Da Rock wrote: > If I may, can I ask a quick question: My main misgivings about ZFS have > been speed, ram use, and up till about a year ago or so relative 'youth' > (at least on FreeBSD). What would be the minimum ram you would use for a > high disk use? And what would be reco

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 23:39, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 18/02/2012 11:36, Da Rock wrote: If I may, can I ask a quick question: My main misgivings about ZFS have been speed, ram use, and up till about a year ago or so relative 'youth' (at least on FreeBSD). What would be the minimum ram you would use for a h

Invitation to Efficient Plant Shutdown & Turnaround Forum 2012 - Kuala Lumpur

2012-02-18 Thread Kyle Law
20 - 21 March 2012, The Royale Chulan Hotel, Kuala Lumpur A Regional TAR Management Forum - APAC Dear Energy Peer, “How should we handle forced outages?” - Avoid a heart rending sight of smouldering our plants with spiralling smoke. We're spending years to plan TAR. We definitely know how challeng

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 13:48, Da Rock wrote: > I was thinking along the lines of continuous heavy load of writing (some > read) rather large files (5G+ would be average - multiple!) - does that > warrant caching or is it only lots of smaller files? That and lots of > ~0.5G files (read mostly) is what define

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 01:59:53 2012 > From: Doug Hardie > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:54:36 -0800 > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: One or Four? > > > On 17 February 2012, at 23:21, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From owner-freebsd-

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread RW
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:10:00 -0800 Robison, Dave wrote: > On 02/17/2012 15:55, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > Yes. It works as intended even when /tmp is part of a single root > > partition; although mounting /tmp as a RAM- or swap-based tmpfs > > filesystem might be better for many situations. > >

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/19/12 00:28, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 18/02/2012 13:48, Da Rock wrote: I was thinking along the lines of continuous heavy load of writing (some read) rather large files (5G+ would be average - multiple!) - does that warrant caching or is it only lots of smaller files? That and lots of ~0.5

Bridge wired / wireless without hosting the network - is this possible

2012-02-18 Thread Mark Dixon
Hi all, Apologies if this has come up before but I can't see anything with a quick google. What I want to do is setup a bridge between my wireless network and a wired one. Hostap I hear everyone cry but I don't think that will work because I don't want to create a wireless network - I want to

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:56:28 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > /usr/local/libexec is used by the programs usually initiated by users. > As per the man /libexec contains sub programs for those in /bin or /sbin. > > The programs are usually run by users, or run as a user themselves > (multiuser mode). Daem

BIND SPF/TXT Questions

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
I know this is a bit off topic from CentOS itself, but are there any DNS experts that would be able to e-mail me on the side and assist with some questions I have regarding TXT/SPF records? I want to ensure my mail doesn't bounce. ___ freebsd-question

Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different "opinion" of what should be included and what should not be included. Let me give you a scenario of my setup, and hopefully someone can help me out. My d

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM, "Jonathan Vomacka" wrote: > > I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different "opinion" of what should be included and what should not be included. > > Let me give you a scenario of

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
On 2/18/2012 12:18 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM, "Jonathan Vomacka" mailto:juvi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different "opinion" of what should b

Re: Question regarding SPF records

2012-02-18 Thread RW
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:34:09 -0500 Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > teamwarfare.com. IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx a:mail.teamwarfare.com > a:mail2.teamwarfare.com ip4:66.90.73.80 ip4:216.250.250.148 ~all" > > I wouldn't need an "include:" or "ptr" statement in this right? I > would told "include:" was to inclu

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 09:16:34PM -0500, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have > said: > > >Well, to be honest, I never liked the "old style" default > >with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ > >default style for sep

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 2/17/12 11:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: > > Hiya, > [snip] > > We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as > > one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We > > want to kno

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
man hier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: ZFS question

2012-02-18 Thread George Kontostanos
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Denis Fortin wrote: > Good morning, > > On a small system using FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, ZFS is reporting an issue on a > pool, that I am not certain is really an issue, but I don't know how to > investgate... > > Here is the situation: I have created a ZFS pool on an

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Story
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > man hier > man 7 hier makes no mention of /home or /usr/home at all ... ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsub

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to have said: man hier --As for the rest, it is mine. ...Doesn't mention /home (or /usr/home) once. ;) Pointing people to the docs which answers their question is good. But please make sure it actually answers their

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to > have said: > >> man hier True, but /usr/... was a typical place to find users' home directories, since /usr is mounted when the system goes to multiuser mode. /

Re: DNS - slaving the root zone

2012-02-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/18/2012 03:23, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >> >> To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers around >> the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't notice if >> something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (o

Re: Is the list down?

2012-02-18 Thread Al Plant
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Friday 17 February 2012 08:49:37 Da Rock wrote: On 02/17/12 11:21, Al Plant wrote: I have not seen any action in 2 days. There's been plenty of action in the last 2 days. Maybe check your mail server logs for errors? I noticed the same thing. The missing mails

gpart usage during install

2012-02-18 Thread Robert Simmons
I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same thing in 9.0, but when I get to

Re: gpart usage during install

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Powell
Robert Simmons wrote: > I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check > things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain > things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a > fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same

Re: Is the list down?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Al, On Sunday 19 February 2012 07:15:00 Al Plant wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Aloha Eric, > > My missing mail finally come down the pipe over night too. Strange but > it has happened before. > > Thanks for your support. Where are you located? Here in Hawaii we have > military inst

No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3

2012-02-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear kind folks, I am getting more and more as to what is needed to keeping a system running in optimum conditions(updating ports & userland too). I was just updating ports, but neglecting the new userland tools & kernels. I have successfully run make buildworld & make installworld, and the steps

Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3

2012-02-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Antonio, >  The 'upgrade' from _P5_ to P6 did not touch the kernel, hence the kernel ID > did not change. > >  Going from P3  you should have seen a kernel update. > >  what do you see if you do "strings /boot/kernel/kernel |grep 8" It is

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > > suggest just t

webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and ask for some help :) I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4 am

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > suggest just two choices. > yes, three options is ok. > [ ] all in one + swap

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was > determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and > ask for some help :) > > I have (I believe I have mentioned

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 09:30:55 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > > So,

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 From: Da Rock To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: webcamd and device numbering I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was determined

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Carl Johnson
Erich Dollansky writes: > Hi, > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> > >> >> So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even >> suggest just two choices. >> > yes, three opti

Re: zroot won't mount after 9.0-RC2 -> 9.0-RELEASE upgrade

2012-02-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
To follow-up, testkernel mounted fine using the procedure from loader.4th(8): set kernel=testkernel unload boot-conf And the OS upgrade is now done, after a few more tweaks have been ironed out (the most interesting of them is a difference between /boot/testkernel and /boot/kernel, which were sup

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 11:40:22 Carl Johnson wrote: > Erich Dollansky writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> So, Polytropon's three choice pattern

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-18 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> From >> owner-freebsd-questions@**freebsd.org >> Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 >>> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 >>> From: Da >>> Rock >>> > >>> To:

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-18 Thread Stephen Cook
On 2/18/2012 8:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even suggest just two choices. A normal user will use the first