Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself?

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 03:30:14 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Wednesday 09 June 2010 09:34:40 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see > > > it? > > > > When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't s

Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
So, it would appear that Midphase hosting are still incapable of working out why their ticketing system is sending replies with forged From: address to posters to the freebsd-questions mailing list. (Their support queue is at mpcustomer.com). I'm assuming the list admins already have examples t

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID: I suggest to block on the freebsd server the compl

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: I'm assuming the list admins already have examples to work with, but here is a set of headers from the reply I got to my last list post, in case it's any help. for everyone how does not want this mails anymore but into your /etc/mail/access the

Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30)

2010-06-10 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi, On my system (FreeBSD 7.3 AMD64, system & kernel current as per today) it takes awully long to start up gnome (2.30) - "awfully long" meaning 2-3 minutes (this is on a Intel quadcore-CPU with 4GB RAM!) In my /etc/rc.conf I've got gnome_enable="YES" I've already ruled out the usual suspect b

RE: Small webserver recommendations

2010-06-10 Thread peter harrison
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm pretty much settled on thttpd now though - small, does cgi, no dependencies. Thanks, Peter. -Original Message- From: Nathan Peet Maier Sent: 09 June 2010 23:38 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations There is a

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Hi, > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: >> >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 >> From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Reply-To: supp...@mpcusto

Re: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30)

2010-06-10 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > On my system (FreeBSD 7.3 AMD64, system & kernel current as per today) > it takes awully long to start up gnome (2.30) - "awfully long" meaning > 2-3 minutes (this is on a Intel quadcore-CPU with 4GB RAM!) > > In my /etc/rc.conf I've

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? > >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 > >>

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner > wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: >> >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes n

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 13:32:23, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be > unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at > least the last several weeks now? Sure. Just te

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] > > They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't > unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Rob Farmer : > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner > > wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > >> >> Subject:

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique > value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the > message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe > problems of scale and lo

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown > wrote: > [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] >> >> They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't >

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 14:12:48, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it Dat's der bunny. > would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little > about their reputation o

RE: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30)

2010-06-10 Thread daniele p
I also have a similar problem (slow start-up) with gnome 2.30. In my case gnome-panel stops for some time (30 secs ?) then outputs a message to the console and then everything is ready to accept input. I can't attach the output message now. In my /etc/rc.conf I just added hald_enable="YES" db

Re: Question on gvinum

2010-06-10 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Vinay wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD. I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 and was playing with > gvinum. > > > Can you let me know what am i missing? > You should use a current release of FreeBSD, if 6.3 is still supported it won't be for much longer. Use the 8.

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people running other MTAs are left as exercises for interested students. If you don't have your own mail system, t

Question on packages and ports (and versions)

2010-06-10 Thread Antonio Vieiro
Hi all, I can't find an answer to this question, so I decided to post here. Since I'm not very good at english let me ask this with an example. I assume that packages and ports may have different versions of the same software (am I right?) so, for instance, if you install gnome with packages you

Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions)

2010-06-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 04:58:56PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > Hi all, > > I can't find an answer to this question, so I decided to post here. > Since I'm not very good at english let me ask this with an example. > > I assume that packages and ports may have different versions of the > same so

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 10 06:25:02 2010 > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:55 +0200 > From: Matthias Fechner > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting > > Hi, > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > > Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does p

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown articulated: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a > > unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved > > in the message that mpcust

sh ++/-- operators

2010-06-10 Thread RW
FreeBSD's sh (in 8.0) doesn't seem to support the ++ or -- arithmetic operators $ echo "$((n++))" arithmetic expression: syntax error: "n++" Am I wrong in thinking these are POSIX operators? It seems odd if they were simply left-out.. ___ freebsd-q

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 15:13:39, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: >> Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if >> you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people >> runn

CVSUP

2010-06-10 Thread Grant Peel
Hi all, Its been a while since I have used CVSup. I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly after 8.0 was released. I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use in the sup

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 > Jonathan McKeown articulated: > >> On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>> The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a >>> unique

Re: CVSUP

2010-06-10 Thread Jason
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:26:22PM -0400, Grant Peel thus spake: Hi all, Its been a while since I have used CVSup. I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly after 8.0 was released. I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it TO make sure that

Re: CVSUP

2010-06-10 Thread Brian Seklecki (Mobile)
RELENG_8_0 Yes. This will give you the latest 8.0 release + desired patch level (critical security patches). This is almost certain what you want to be running before going to production status. I mean, you could use RELENG_8_0_RELEASE I suppose, but then the cvsup would be without merit.

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
On 10.06.2010 18:12, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 > Jonathan McKeown articulated: > >> On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>> The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a >>> unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is

Fixing the spam from MPCUSTOMER.com

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Bonomi
I have an approach that will get MidPhase's attention, but I need the help of as many of the other victims of their borked support system as I can round up. Anybody who gets one of their misbeggotten trouble-ticket acks, please forward (or copy, or whatever) the message, with *COMPLETE* headers, t

Re: CVSUP

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 17:26:22, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Its been a while since I have used CVSup. > > I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly > after 8.0 was released. > > I want to run CVSup on the source and ports b

Re: sh ++/-- operators

2010-06-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 10), RW said: > FreeBSD's sh (in 8.0) doesn't seem to support the ++ or -- arithmetic > operators > > $ echo "$((n++))" > arithmetic expression: syntax error: "n++" > > Am I wrong in thinking these are POSIX operators? It seems odd if they > were simply left-out.. Ea

Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells

2010-06-10 Thread Dan D Niles
I had been using csh/tcsh for 20 years and I just switched to bash. The recent discussion about the differences between the shells prompted me to take another look at bash. I thought I'd share my perception of the differences between tcsh and bash. The big thing tcsh is lacking, and the reason

Re: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jun 9 06:09:36 2010 > From: Eitan Adler > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:08:58 +0300 > To: questi...@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working > > Lately I've been getting a considerable number of defunct processes. I >

Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells

2010-06-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Dan D Niles writes: > The which command functions differently between bash and tcsh. For > example, I have ls aliased to do color output and add some other options > that I like. With tcsh, 'which ls' returns > "ls: aliased to \ls -GFB"; with bash it returns > "/bin/ls". The tcsh behavior

Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells

2010-06-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 10), Lowell Gilbert said: > Dan D Niles writes: > > > The which command functions differently between bash and tcsh. For > > example, I have ls aliased to do color output and add some other options > > that I like. With tcsh, 'which ls' returns > > "ls: aliased

Re: Fixing the spam from MPCUSTOMER.com

2010-06-10 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 10 2010 11:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > I have an approach that will get MidPhase's attention, but I need the help > of as many of the other victims of their borked support system as I can > round up. > > Anybody who gets one of their misbeggotten trouble-ticket acks, please > forward (or cop

Anyone aware of dahdi port not working?

2010-06-10 Thread jay west
I emailed the maintainer but got no response. Fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0-Release and a port collection from around 6/5/10. Did a make on the dahdi-2.3.0rc2 port, but it fails. I can provide details, but was wondering if it was something on my machine or if others have noticed this and are awa

Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Cracauer
Douglas Thrift wrote on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:27:25PM -0700: > Hello, > > I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should > actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while > back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug > for th

Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells

2010-06-10 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:41:32 -0400 Lowell Gilbert articulated: > bash (like most other sh-style shells) has no "which" builtin. You > end up running /usr/bin/which. bash (like most other sh-style > shells) does have a (rough) equivalent, which is "type" Personally, I have found the "command" e

Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-10 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Douglas Thrift wrote: > Hello, > > I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should > actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while > back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug > for this: http

Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-10 Thread Douglas Thrift
Hello, I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/146680 Hope this helps

Dahdi issue, found fix.

2010-06-10 Thread jay west
I should have spent just a few more minutes googling. Found this: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.bsd/3083 Looks like exactly the issue I ran in to. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mail

Re: cron not sending emails (SOLVED)

2010-06-10 Thread Carlos Fernando Assis Paniago
I Had a terrible week with freebsd. In monday I did an upgrade from 7.3 to 8.1-prerelease in 3 machines, 2 of them worked normaly and one stop functioning, and without user (ldap) e cron is not sending emails. The log for cron is: Jun 10 19:45:00 sol /usr/sbin/cron[80892]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib

lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-10 Thread C. P. Ghost
Hello Martin, *, the port lang/cmucl has a dependency on a very old libutil, libc and libm: % lisp /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.5" not found, required by "lisp" % which lisp /usr/local/bin/lisp % ldd `which lisp` /usr/local/bin/lisp: libutil.so.5 => not found (0x0)

sendmail access

2010-06-10 Thread kalin m
hi all... reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html i did get an access file set up. it doesn't do anything thought... i have only entry like this: some.domain.comOK and did make. then changed /etc/defaults/rc.conf to sendmail_enable=

Re: sendmail access

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM, kalin m wrote: > > > > hi all... > reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html > > i did get an access file set up. it doesn't do anything thought... > i have only entry like this: > > some.domain.com            OK > > and did

Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells

2010-06-10 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:49 am, Dan D Niles wrote: > I had been using csh/tcsh for 20 years and I just switched to > bash. The recent discussion about the differences between the > shells prompted me to take another look at bash. I thought > I'd share my perception of the differences between tcsh a

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x11/kdebase4-workspace: build error

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Schweizer
Hello While I'm on the upgradeing path to KDE 4.4.4 I get the follwoing error in x11/kdebase4-workspace. Any ideas? Kind regards, ===> Building for kdebase-workspace-4.4.4 [ 0%] [ 0%] Built target kgreet_generic_automoc Built target kgreet_classic_automoc [ 0%] Built target kgreet_winbind_

Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions)

2010-06-10 Thread Antonio Vieiro
Hi, Ah, I see. So if I need a more advanced version of some software, that has been installed as a package, I can use portupgrade (or other port management tools) to upgrade the package to a port. Am I right? Thanks, Antonio (As a newbie I'm somewhat concerned about keeping consistency between