Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread perryh
Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] > > Any ideas? :-) > > > I have 2: > 1.) Bad NIC > 2.) Bad CPU 3. Bad cable from NIC to switch 4. Bad switch

Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Joel Dahl
Glen Barber skrev: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Glen Barber wrote: I have 2: 1.) Bad NIC 2.) Bad CPU A while back, I found out I had a bad CPU after replacing everything else on the machine -- I would still receive CRC mismatch errors with portsnap(8). The NIC is more probable IMHO, but bot

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS boot > partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some how-to > documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the impression I got > is that support for ZFS parti

Re: Manual Installations on Flash Media

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700, David Allen > wrote: > >> I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via a >> USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the use of >> an installation CD, PXE or sysinstall. >> >> 1. Would a dev

Re: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
PJ wrote: > Could somone explain to me why an upgrade from sysinstall would > overwrite partitions; especially when the instructions indicate that > files will not be overwritten? > > Dear Phil, Ofcourse if you upgrade, files will be overwritten. Could you please be more specific? Greetz, Mark

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > something... It is very easy to generate hard-to-guess semi-random passwords: openssl rand -ba

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Neal Hogan wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel > Flynn wrote: > >> On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: >> >>> 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン : >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk < frederi...@isafeelin.org> wrote: >>

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: > > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > > something... > > It is very e

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Boosten
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: >>> I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all >>> about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing >>> s

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:14:39AM +0200, Mark Stapper typed: > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... > So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing > list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats and > institutions like the

Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse freezes. To analyze the problem I do the following: # /etc/rc.d/moused restart # dd if=/dev/sy

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: > Neal Hogan wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel >> Flynn wrote: >> >>> On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: >>> 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン : > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk < > >

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 Neal Hogan wrote: > New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender > when posting. OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other irrelevant information. -- Jerry

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread chris scott
My zfs only system works fine but it based on 8-beta2 built around 16 May( will be rebuilding soon) The main thing to remember to do it make sure your have zfs_loader_support="yes" in your src of make.conf I based my install on this howto http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRootWithZFSboot#installFreeB

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry wrote: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 Neal Hogan wrote: New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender when posting. OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other irrelevant information

kernel panics in 7.2-RELEASE

2009-08-04 Thread Joey Mingrone
Hi, I have 7.2-RELEASE running on two older laptops and both have had a few kernel panics lately. Unfortunately the one that paniced today doesn't have debugging symbols, so I'm sure how useful any of output below will be. Joey % dmesg . . . Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Modulok
Good call on the hashing, reducing the quality of the passwords, Kurt. The hash generated passwords are for online accounts, as auto-generated initial passwords and such. But I'm also looking for a good way to generate high quality crypto keys. In the later case, the data being protected are disk

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: > > > I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the > > output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired > > length. Blasphemy! According to the superstitious passw

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Modulok
As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of characters represent one byte. Aye? -Modulok- On 8/4/09, RW wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 > Mel Flynn wrote: > >> On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:28:52 -0600 Modulok wrote: > However, wouldn't hashing bytes from /dev/random be quite secure? The > hash function would cover any readily apparent patterns, if they were > found to existed. That's fine, the only issue is that hex digits lead to long passwords for a given s

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:42:22 -0600 Modulok wrote: > As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed > password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of > characters represent one byte. Aye? I wouldn't put it quite like that, it's the hexadecimal representation

cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread David Southwell
I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP _7_2_0_RELEASE _7_2 But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! # uname -a 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Powell
David Southwell wrote: > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > _7_BP > _7_2_BP > _7_2_0_RELEASE > _7_2 > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > > > # uname -a > > 7.2-RELEASE-

Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:56 AM, wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: > > [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out > of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] > > > > Any ideas? :-) > > > > > I have 2: > > 1.) Bad NIC > >

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread David Southwell
> David Southwell wrote: > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > > > _7_BP > > _7_2_BP > > _7_2_0_RELEASE > > _7_2 > > > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > > > > > > # unam

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > _7_BP > _7_2_BP BP ? > _7_2_0_RELEASE Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. > _7_2 > > But could not find

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: > Hi, > > an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble > here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I > can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse > freezes. > > To

not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Kline
Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I rarely/never use? Mos

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
Glen Barber wrote: >On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: >> I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. >> >> I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: >> >> _7_BP >> _7_2_BP > >BP ? > It is the "branchpoint" tag, made when a release branch is first c

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Gary On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >        Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually >        24/7 working on thesis.  So was my advisor, but then that's his >        *job*.  Anyway, now it's wait and see. > Such is academia. :-) >        Meanwh

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, b. f. wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >>On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell >>wrote: >>> I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. >>> >>> I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: >>> >>> _7_BP >>> _7_2_BP >> >>BP ? >> > > It

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > > > _7_BP > > _7_2_BP > > BP ? BP = Branch Point.

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 00:14:39 Mark Stapper wrote: > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... > So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing > list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats and > institutions like the court

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Jason Garrett
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS > boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some > how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the > impression I got

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 12:52:54 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the followi

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:54 -0400 Glen Barber wrote: > >        Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries > > that I rarely/never use?  Most show a list of dependencies that's > > about 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > > > > ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves may be wh

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
On 8/4/09, Glen Barber wrote: >> _7_2_0_RELEASE >>> >>>Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. >>> >> >> RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE is a valid tag. Don't make pronouncements if you >> haven't verified them. >> > > He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. Well, neither actually.

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:16:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually > 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his > *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Good luck! > Meanwhile: how do I ge

[Solved] Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Joel Dahl
Adam Vande More skrev: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:56 AM, wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] Any ideas? :-) I have 2: 1.) Bad NIC 2.) Ba

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM, b. f. wrote: >> >> He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. > > Well, neither actually.  :)   s/0_2/2_0/  .  But I inferred from the > context  -- it seemed obvious, particularly from what he wrote later > -- that he meant those choices as suffixes to RELENG,

Re: [Solved] Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: > And now everything seems to be working.  I've been doing some tests for a > few hours, but I can't get the machine to crap out again.  Looking good so > far... :-) > Good to hear. :-) -- Glen Barber _

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:34:27 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Modulok wrote: > > > > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > > something... > > You could just use apg ... it's in the ports. By the l

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
Roland Smith wrote: >What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with >ports-mgmt/portmaster: > portmaster -L >ports.list > >Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; >- Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) >- Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) >- Bran

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Tim Gustafson
> I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want > random crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 > versions. I'm using 7.2 at the moment with a standard UFS2 boot partition and a 500GB ZFS pool. My ZFS pool actually seems pretty stable. I did a "make -j 16 b

find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I cannot figure it out. I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all of the files in the directory to a file. Here is the code. #!/usr/local/bin/bash cat ${FILELIST} | while read LINE

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 17:06:56 Jay Hall wrote: > I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I > cannot figure it out. > > I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all > of the files in the directory to a file. > > Here is the code. > > #!/usr/loc

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Gatten
What is "-type" supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Aug 04 20:06:56 2009 Subject: find question I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wro

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > What is "-type" supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. > Gary, -type allows different types of files to be located -- 'f' - regular file, 'd' - directory, 'l' - link, etc. Have a look at find(1) for more info. Regards, -

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
What is "-type" supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. Type is used to specify the type of file to be found. f is a regular file. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Gatten
Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? From: Jay Hall To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Aug 04 20:41:22 2009 Subject: Re: find question What

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 21:28:37 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: > Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: > > Hi, > > > > an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble > > here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I > > can

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? I think I just found the problem. I am testing now. There was a blank line at the end of the file. ___ freebsd-questions@freeb

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 03:26:24 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Further I seem to have missed something else. I found the page > http://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad where are mentioned some > sysctls: > > hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" > hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_hor_area=1300 > > I don't have

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Bristow
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:49:17PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self > explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? Yes. But to be clear, one of the lines in the input file is blank, which means that find is run as find -type