Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:22:37 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote, *again* without attribution: >> From the glossary (p. 630) of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_the >> _FreeBSD_Operating_System_ by McKusick and Neville-Neil: >> >> load average A measure of CPU load on the system. T

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Ronny Mandal
Maybe you're looking for this? http://www.petefreitag.com/cheatsheets/ascii-codes/ This one is quite specific, though... http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm Regards, Ronny Mandal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mai

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Eighner
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Kelly Jones wrote: "man ascii" defines the ASCII codes from 0-127, That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. and the various ISO-8859-x tables define the ASCII codes from 160-255 No. There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255. A

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Michael David Crawford
Lars Eighner wrote: That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255. ASCII is a 7-bit standard. You cannot express 160 in seven bits. No, because there are no ASCII codes between 128 and 159. ASCII is a 7-bit s

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Yuri wrote: > Look below: load over 7 and no processes take much CPU. > > Yuri > > 7.2-PRERELEASE, 32-bit on i7-920. > > > last pid: 93192; load averages: 7.68, 6.27, > 4.61

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/24 Wojciech Puchar : >>    From the glossary (p. 630) of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_the >> _FreeBSD_Operating_System_ by McKusick and Neville-Neil: >> >>        load average  A measure of CPU load on the system.  The load >> average >>                in FreeBSD is an average of the nu

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Ronny Mandal
Yes, you're right; ASCII is a seven bit code. Only E-ASCII employs the 8th bit to widen the addressing space available, thus it can define more characters in binary. /RM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/list

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. You are mistaken. I think what you are referring to is the percentage of no i'm not. doing lots of I/O and little CPU load produces high "load average

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) ___ freebs

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Morgan Wesström
> Lars Eighner wrote: >> That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. > >> There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255. ASCII is a 7-bit >> standard. You cannot express 160 in seven bits. > > >> No, because there are no ASCII codes between 128 and 159. ASCI

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar : >>> first - says that it's measure of CPU load >>> then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT >>> measure of CPU load. >>> >> >> Er, what? Of course it is! >> > amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) > Do

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar : first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. >>> Er, what? Of course it is! >>> >> amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Peter Boosten : > Chris Rees wrote: >> 2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar : > first - says that it's measure of CPU load > then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT > measure of CPU load. > Er, what? Of course it is! >>> amount of disk I/O

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread vehemens
Ever wonder where we would be as a civilization if the additional codes had been used for math symbols and greek letters as used in engineering and science. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Shakil Khan
Hi All, Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi All, > > Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to > BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without > howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in > this group it made me nervous to ask for a

How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
Dear all This may be slightly OT, but I'm using on a FreeBSD machine. How to convert following into bash style? echo "${X}" > ${Z} echo "${Y}" >> ${Z} Best regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread John Dakos [ Enovation Technologies ]
Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all John Dakos Network Administrator Enovation Technologies Filellinon 35, Chalandrion 15232 Athens, GREECE Tel: +30-210

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Michael Powell
Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi All, > > Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to > BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without > howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in > this group it made me nervous to ask for

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, > Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, > > Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I recommend the following step-by-step instructions: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.fairtrade.net.pl __

RE: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Johan Hendriks
>Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, >Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail >I will appreciate >Thanks all A good combination for webmail is: Postfix as MTA Dovecot as IMAP / POP3 server Postfixadmin for webbased management. Mysql or postgresql for th

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Shakil Khan wrote: Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question li

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
2009/5/25 Johan Hendriks > >Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, > > >Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail > > >I will appreciate > > >Thanks all > > > A good combination for webmail is: > > Postfix as MTA > Dovecot as IMAP / POP3 server > Postfixadmin fo

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: Dear all This may be slightly OT, but I'm using on a FreeBSD machine. How to convert following into bash style? echo "${X}" > ${Z} echo "${Y}" >> ${Z} Exactly the same in posix standard /bin/sh or in bash. bash(1) should be capable of running any compliant /bin/sh script directl

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread larin
John Dakos [ Enovation Technologies ] wrote: Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all John Dakos Network Administrator Enovation Technologies Filellinon 35

installing in a netbook, corrupted kernel on boot with unetbootin

2009-05-25 Thread Leandro Chescotta
Hi! how can i boot the installation with my netbook? i tryed a lot of isos, of 7.2, 7.1, and 6.4 with unetbootin, but when i boot them it says always CORRUPTED KERNEL IMAGE or something like that... Previously i installed arch linux and they have a ".img" usb ready image, so you only need to "dd if

upgrade 7 -> 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Pieter Donche
I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 (this is new to me) One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third party software.. this took 27 minutes on the 33 packages machine.. So for 20 t

Re: Problem with LOCK_PROFILING stats in 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Nikola Knežević
On 05.22.2009, at 14:21 , Nikola Knežević wrote: I'm using LOCK_PROFILING to, well, profile some locks in the module I'm working on. I also have INVARIANTS turned on. Numbers I'm getting look correct, however, name of the lock is strange (for some of the locks I'm using): 25725 517772

Re: upgrade 7 -> 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Pieter Donche wrote: > I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 > (this is new to me) > One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other > over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third > party software..

Re: upgrade 7 -> 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Julien Cigar
You don't have to rebuilt all ports when you upgrade from 7.0 to 7.2, it is, in general, only required when you upgrade for one major version to another one (6.x -> 7.x or 7.x to 8.x) On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 14:30 +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:57:35 -0700 Kelly Jones wrote: > and was surprised that doing this to identical files yielded different > results. I then realized "openssl enc" randomly(?) chooses a salt if > you don't supply one. > > I want my backups encrypted, but I also want identical files to > enc

Re: upgrade 7 -> 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Vasile Cristescu
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:30:27 Pieter Donche wrote: > I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 > (this is new to me) > One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other > over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third > party software.. t

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Reko Turja
Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail Postfix Cyrus (+possible Postgres if database is needed) Squirrel, IMP... One can build very decent BSD or like licensed mail server, except the webmail part. Every available webmail package I've found are under GPL. -Reko __

Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? __

gdm won't start at 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello I've installed from scratch a i386 7.2 machine , when I try to start gdm the machine display the login screen with "other" written on it but it is totally hanged , even the mouse. Any info ? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing lis

FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Howard Jones
Hi, Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right direction please? I've used gmirror before with no trouble, but nothing fancier. I have a set of brand new 1TB drives, a Sil3124 SATA card and a FreeBSD 7.1-p4 system. I created a RAID 5 set with gvinum: drive d0 device /dev/a

Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Noland
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 20:09 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Koichiro IWAO escribió: > > The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product. > > So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still > > unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. Does anyone have

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > From: Matthew Seaman > Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:10 PM > Unga wrote: > > Dear all > > > > This may be slightly OT, but I'm using on a FreeBSD > machine. Ho

Re: gdm won't start at 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread mct
Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello I've installed from scratch a i386 7.2 machine , when I try to start gdm the machine display the login screen with "other" written on it but it is totally hanged , even the mouse. Any info ? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@fr

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Mister Olli
Hi, I remember building a RAID5 on gvinum with 3 500GB hard drives some months ago, and it took horribly long to initialize the raid5 (several hours). It seems to be a one-time job, cause since the raid finished it's initialization the machine starts up/ reboots within normal times. The documen

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Unga wrote: >Here is what happens in bash shell: >$ echo "${X}" > ${Z} >bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect Perhaps I am misinterpreting your question; however, if I define both ${X} and ${Z} in a script prior to running your snippet, I do not receive any erro

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Jerry wrote: > From: Jerry > Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 11:22 PM > On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 > (PDT) > Unga > wrote: > > >Here is what happens in bash shell: > >$ echo "${X}" > ${Z} > >b

RE: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Steele
>$ echo "${X}" > ${Z} >bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect > >I want to append all variables in X and Y into Z so that "echo $Z" should be: >XX1=YES XX2=YES YY1=YES YY2=YES Redirection is not the right way to do it. Just do this: $ Z="$X $Y" $ echo $Z XX1=YES XX2=YES YY1=YES YY2=YES

RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Howard Jones [mailto:howard.jo...@network-i.net] Sent: 25 May 2009 14:58 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD & Software RAID Hi, Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right direction please? I've used gmirror before with no

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Valentin Bud
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Howard Jones [mailto:howard.jo...@network-i.net] > Sent: 25 May 2009 14:58 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD & Software RAID > > Hi, > > Can anyone with experience of software RAID p

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i use gmirror but once i tried gvinum and it doesn't work well. i think simply use mirroring. ZFS will introduce 100 times more problems than it solves ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:37:59PM +0300, Valentin Bud wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Graeme Dargie > wrote: > > > Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right > > direction please? I've used gmirror before with no trouble, but nothing > > fancier. [76 lines trimm

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, needs about 1 GB especially if large file transfers may occur over gigabit ethernet while it CAN be set up on 256MB machine with a little big flags in loader.conf (should be autotuned anyway) - it generally takes as much memory as it's

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Do you ever think before you type? You regularly fill this mailing list with crap please don't name things "crap" just because you don't understand ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questio

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' exactly what i said. In that case he's correct: whenever the CPU has to wait a lot for I/O, like network and disk, then the _load_ will go up, while the CPU _utilization_ stays low. and that's inconsistent with explanatio

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream s

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Matthew Seaman wrote: Here is what happens in bash shell: $ echo "${X}" > ${Z} bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect So, what's the value of ${Z}? Unless that expands to something that could be a valid file name you'll get an error message of some sort. hint: add

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Jerry wrote: From: Jerry Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 11:22 PM On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Unga wrote: Here is what happens in bash shell: $ echo "${X}" > ${Z} bash: ${Z}: a

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 19:12, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' exactly what i said. Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu _utilization_, which are two completely different thingemies. The load averages in

updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
Hi All I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. sun3# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.2RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done.

RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] Sent: 25 May 2009 18:09 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Cc: Howard Jones; Graeme Dargie; Valentin Bud Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID > > I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, ne

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:09:15PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, needs > >about 1 GB especially if large file transfers may occur over gigabit > >ethernet > > while it CAN be set up on 256MB machine with a little big flags in > loade

RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Ok granted this is a server sat in my house and it is not a "mission" critical server in a large business, personally I have can live with ZFS taking a bit longer vs resilience. simply gmirror and UFS gives the same. much simpler, much faster. but of course lots of people like to make their lif

Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It makes a certain degree of sense. Sometimes things have to be done wrong for us to realize how good we had it before. How would we know how great FreeBSD is if we didn't have Linux? I had to look at ZFS to decide not to use it when I rebuild my storage this week due to a failing drive. you are

RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] Sent: 25 May 2009 18:54 To: Graeme Dargie Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Howard Jones; Valentin Bud Subject: RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID > Ok granted this is a server sat in my house and it is not a "mi

RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
but of course lots of people like to make their life harder No I am not making life harder at all ... I have 6x500gb hard disks I want in a good solid raid 5 type configuration. So you are somewhat wide of the mark in your assumptions. that's a reason. just don't forget that RAID-z is MUCH closer

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:57:35PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > Are there any secure openssl symmetric encryption routines that > *don't* use a salt? > > Is it secure to use a random-but-fixed salt (openssl enc -S salt)? > > "man enc" says "This option [-salt] should ALWAYS be used [...]" > > Rea

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-25 Thread kristian.tenorio
Nice, go on using Windows, Jerry. I will use my FreeBSD Box. But I'd like to point out that my earlier solution is not that good. I'm going to fix it here, Jerry and I'm sure this'll be interesting for Chandan. Throughout this reply I will give two solutions: an improvement of tpr and lpd-compat

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu what's a difference for you between "CPU load" and "CPU utilization"? i mean CPU load not system load. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/list

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:08, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu what's a difference for you between "CPU load" and "CPU utilization"? i mean CPU load not system load. The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% uti

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not perform the same at 10% utilization, it will perform 10 times less than at 100% utilizati

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Jos On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video > streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). > Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream > servic

Re: Using rsync for versioned backups without --backup

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
sentially it is a file copying tool. You could use diff if it is a text-only file, or xdelta if it is a binary file. But both would require you to keep at least two subsequent versions of the file so a diff can be generated. You'd need to do something like this every day: diff -u foo-yesterd

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
make search key="streaming" in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix.

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% >> utilization, the system however won't. >> That's the difference between load and utilization. > > still don't understand you. > > CPU will not perform the same at

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:24, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not perform the same at 10% utilization,

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not true. top(1) can fully utilize the CPU. Doing so does not put the system under full load. top uses small percentage of CPU power. if it would use all - it WOULD mean full CPU load. load average is how much processes (by average) is not doing calculations because something is not yet a

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The CPU = "Central Processing Unit" will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no. it will not. all today x86 CPUs reacts on HLT command and doesn't do anything except waiting for interrupt (and saving lots of power).

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:37, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The CPU = "Central Processing Unit" will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no. it will not. all today x86 CPUs reacts on HLT command and doesn't do anything e

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-25 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT) "kristian.tenorio" wrote: >Nice, go on using Windows, Jerry. I will use my FreeBSD Box. >But I'd like to point out that my earlier solution is not that good. >I'm going to fix it here, Jerry and I'm sure this'll be interesting for >Chandan. Nice, go on "

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution in

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar : > you are funny. > > Don't ever send me private messages like that. You are a troll who gives harmful and misleading advice. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: Wha

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in > [http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/enc.html], using a random salt by > default is a design decision because: "Without the -salt option it is > possible to perform efficient dictionary

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > make search key="streaming" > > > > in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more > > bandwidth intensive overall. > > and give NO adventages. > > anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or si

Re: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-25 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/5/25 Graeme Dargie : > Hi All > > I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. > > > > sun3# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.2RELEASE 7.2-RELEASE Maybe? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre

OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Gary Kline
guys, one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all "novel" is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. what i submit in doc [or odt] is what gets published. i can turn *this* into /this/

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:42:40 +0200 Peter Boosten wrote: > > On 25 mei 2009, at 21:37, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >> The CPU = "Central Processing Unit" will perform it's > >> calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at > >> 100% utilization. The entire machine > > > > no. i

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:06:01PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in > > [http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/enc.html], using a random salt by > > default is a design decision because: "Without

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:06:57PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > > make search key="streaming" > > > > > > in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more > > > bandwidth intensive overall. > > > > and give N

Re: OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:46:07PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, > > one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all "novel" > is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't > think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. > what i submi

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:41:04 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as > video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth > (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a > stream service/server int

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
^^^ Sorry, mistake: s/file streaming/file download/ when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... you mean videos from youtube are copyrighted? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix. You're aware of UDP-based real-time streaming protocols, right? yes it is, but we talked about youtube-like services. it's not UDP based very well). I

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
you are funny. Don't ever send me private messages like that. You are a troll who gives harmful and misleading advice. exactly because of sentences like that i think you are funny. sorry - but you moved this to public ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Adam Vande More
/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc Or netcat On 5/25/09, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as >>> video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth >>> (...). >> ^

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Do you actually read back what you write: you're saying here that when a CPU has only 10% utilization, it'll run slower than when performing at 100%... i said it perform 10 times less work than when 100% utilized. exactly - read back again. I'm giving up ;-) looks like you just want to pr

Re: OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 25 May 2009 14:46:07 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, > > one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all "novel" > is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't > think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. > what i submit in d

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I already have FreeBSD installed. Just wondering if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening the remote file in a media player) will be more efficient that a streaming server that takes care of bandwidth throttle and average processing time on (h

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:52:05 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:06:01PM +0100, RW wrote: > > On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > > > > Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in > > > [http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/enc.html], us

Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD

2009-05-25 Thread parv
in message <20090524161901.gb3...@current.sisis.de>, wrote Matthias Apitz thusly... > > > On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:52:29 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > I have a real netbook, an EeePC 900 with 20 GByte SSD, Wifi, > > > 1024x600 9" display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for > > > UMTS. I

Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet Dell 610 and Dell 710 servers

2009-05-25 Thread Carlos Pardo
We are back porting the bce driver from 8.0 to 7.0. We are still missing some changes since cold boots work but rebooting (warm booting) fails! The error is: bce0: ../../../dev/bce/if_bce.c(1386); Unable to write CTX memory: cid_addr = 0x, offset = 0x! files back ported: bce/if_

Re: upgrade 7 -> 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread John Remmers
On May 25, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Vasile Cristescu wrote: On Monday 25 May 2009 15:30:27 Pieter Donche wrote: I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 (this is new to me) One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupga

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread FBSD UG
On 25 mei 2009, at 19:16, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if

RE: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: ill...@gmail.com [mailto:ill...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2009 22:39 To: Graeme Dargie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64 2009/5/25 Graeme Dargie : > Hi All > > I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. > > > > sun3# fr

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