Re: USB Flash Drives

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Rather than mounting the disks, I find it easier to use the "mtools" port (emulators/mtools). The commands look like the old ms-dos commands, and include a copy command. Sorry if unrelated, but is there any way to avoid system crash after ejection of just like he said - use mtools for DOS-fo

Re: CMS suggestion on FreeBSD (except Mambo)

2008-12-14 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:31:16 +0800 "Nguyen Tam Chinh" wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, munkhbayar batkhuu > wrote: > > My question is, "Can you suggest me on more secure open source CMS?, > > which CMS are you using on FreeBSD?". > > How about WordPress? Its code is very nice :) A sim

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hi, I know that IM support japanese text. On Freebsd 7.0 with latest imagemagick built from port (6.4.7) and msgothic.ttc copied from windows partition, imagick extension of PHP installed by pecl. in terminal (zsh) I type: convert origin.jpg -fill white -font /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fo

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 20:04 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > than not you discourage beginners from getting interested in this > > i don't discourage beginners that want to learn. > > Most of them don't. You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers were stupid. Maybe the

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:25 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:02:28PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:32:59 +0100 (CET) > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > >NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. > > >this is normal - hardware manufacturer pro

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 13:05 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:46:55AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >>>I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate here. > > >> > > >>exactly what i wrote. the problem is that people like You (and millions > > >>others) are wil

Re: USB Flash Drives

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 01:59 -0700, fixer wrote: > FreeBSD localhost 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 > 11:05:30 UTC 2007 > r...@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 > localhost# > > > I just discovered flash drives. They are very easy to use on Windows. > I

Re: Centralized DB of "system" users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:48 +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello list, > > I don't know if the Subject says what i really want to achieve but i do > hope that i will make myself understood. > > I work for a school and i want to install in 2 labs on very low performance > computers (1 Ghz CPU, 126

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
> If we want FreeBSD to grow to where vendors pick up obscure and > not-so-obscure > devices and support it more than it is now, we need publicity. If we need > publicity, we need marketing types. If we need marketing types, we need to > pay them, and we need to put up with them, and even be n

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 09:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:46:49PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > > > > > IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, > > > it has to improve its hardwar

Re: Centralized DB of "system" users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 10:08 +0100, Michel Talon wrote: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >NIS, which stands for Network Information Services, was developed >by Sun Microsystems to centralize administration of UNIX >(originally SunOS) systems. It has now essentially become an >industry standar

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers were stupid. Maybe they were... the difference is that FreeBSD is free software. or is not? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers >> were stupid. Maybe they were... > > the difference is that FreeBSD is free software. > > or is not? How is that relevant? -- Glen Barber "If you have any troub

Plan9

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
Hope this deosn't upset the purists... I literally stumbled on a reference to plan9 in the freebsd ports- completely by accident, mind- and so I ran a search for what it was on google. I found an article on wikipedia and from there a link to download the latest iso. Unfortunately the .iso.gz is em

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Matthew Seaman < m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >>> You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers were stupid. Maybe they were... >>>

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 18:46 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:47:23PM -0800, prad wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700 > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush > > > others' beneath his heel. Try examining th

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
are thousands of hardware bugs. with "secret" drivers - they can easily hide them. AFAIK at least half of their driver code are to do workaround of their hardware bugs. Actually that sounds like a very close approximation of what is going most "high end" popular products are just buggy. as lo

Re[2]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread KES
Здравствуйте, David. I have home# uname -a FreeBSD home.kes.net.ua 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Tue Aug 12 02:11:24 EEST 2008 k...@kes.net.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v7 i386 on this machine sveserve startsup normally >My confusion comes from the output of PW home# pw user show sv

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 02:44 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > obstinate refusal to open specs is the short-sightedness and general > ignorance of daycoders and pointy-haired bosses -- all of whom think Java > is the best programming language around because that's what "most" > programmers use and have so

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
related things. Ideally developers are self-motivated. They do it because they want to, not because they have to or because they won't get paid if they don't[+]. It's not an entirely black and white distinction -- after all, employees aren't slaves. If they really can't stand being nice to t

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 10:37 -0800, prad wrote: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > > The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO > > work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. > > > i'm not so sure that is really "THAT good". bel

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:05:26 +1000 Da Rock wrote: >On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 13:05 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:46:55AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> > >>>I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate here. >> > >> >> > >>exactly what i wrote. the problem is

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers were stupid. Maybe they were... the difference is that FreeBSD is free software. or is not? How is that relevant? The tech was being paid to do

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:46 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all? > > no. all i want is to stop all stupid topics about: > > - KDE/Gnome/other crap (or great things for somebody) > > BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF FREEBSD. FreeBSD has nothing to this, exc

Re: iwi config help

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 11:29 +, AN wrote: > I'm trying to configure a wireless adapter on an IBM Thinkpad R51, and > need some help. I followed the iwi man page, but the card is not > recognized. I have the following in /boot/loader.conf: > cat /boot/loader.conf > > if_iwi_load="YES" > wlan

Re: Re[2]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:58:55 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > su: Sorry > > > > > > kes# pw user mod svn -s /bin/bash > > kes# pw user show svn > > svn:*:1005:1005::0:0:SVN user:/nonexistent:/bin/bash > > kes# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve start > > Starting svnserve. > > su: Sorry > try to

Re: Canonical way for DHCP->IP->/etc/hosts

2008-12-14 Thread Jeff Laine
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:00:12PM +0100, Roger Olofsson wrote: > Dear mailing list, > > I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again - however > the htdig search interface for the lists is somewhat shaky and gives > referrer errors for me. > > Pre-conditions. > Dualhomed fire

Re: Canonical way for DHCP->IP->/etc/hosts

2008-12-14 Thread Roger Olofsson
Roger Olofsson skrev: Dear mailing list, I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again - however the htdig search interface for the lists is somewhat shaky and gives referrer errors for me. Pre-conditions. Dualhomed firewalled FreeBSD7.1. One nic is LAN and the other dynam

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
with "secret" drivers - they can easily hide them. AFAIK at least half of their driver code are to do workaround of their hardware bugs. Actually that sounds like a very close approximation of what is going on. It explains why cpu usage can go up some times during use. another example. Part of

Canonical way for DHCP->IP->/etc/hosts

2008-12-14 Thread Roger Olofsson
Dear mailing list, I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again - however the htdig search interface for the lists is somewhat shaky and gives referrer errors for me. Pre-conditions. Dualhomed firewalled FreeBSD7.1. One nic is LAN and the other dynamical IP from ISP. Ques

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:15 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > cropping up and saying the equivalent of "If we work on that stuff, > > FreeBSD will just become MS Windows, and it'll suck." I disagree with > because linux got exactly that way and it sucks now. Its better at providing window$ functi

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 21:35 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. > >> this is normal - hardware manufacturer produces hardware, programmers > >> do make support for it. > >> > >> what is common today isn't normal. > > > > I honestly have no id

Re: Centralized DB of "system" users

2008-12-14 Thread Outback Dingo
> Wouldn't kerberos be a better alternative? One server (maybe a > replicated backup), and all services authenticate with that. Saves > shadow on the wire... > I think the ulitimate question is going to be at what level of pain does the person wish to suffer to achieve his goals there are numerous

Re: Centralized DB of "system" users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 17:59 +0700, Outback Dingo wrote: > > Wouldn't kerberos be a better alternative? One server (maybe a > > replicated backup), and all services authenticate with that. Saves > > shadow on the wire... > > > > I think the ulitimate question is going to be at what level of pain do

Re: (no subject)

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 15:47 +0330, abedini wrote: > Hi all dear > > I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. > > This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system. If you have the iso for freebsd on cd you can simply boot from the cd and follow the bouncing ball (si

Re[2]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
su: Sorry kes# pw user mod svn -s /bin/bash kes# pw user show svn svn:*:1005:1005::0:0:SVN user:/nonexistent:/bin/bash kes# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve start Starting svnserve. su: Sorry try to change directory to existent ___ freebsd-questions@freeb

Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention running make to build firebird, but not as root. So I've tried everything to get this to work: running make as my wheel group user, installing as a pkg instead

Re: Release schedules

2008-12-14 Thread Eitan Adler
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Thank you Jonathan - I cannot give much to FBSD as I am not a > programmer either but - again - if I can be of any use > communication-wise, I am happy to join the community and serve. Actually, you could give a lot to the project. I could think of a few things and I'm su

freebsd-update killed my /var

2008-12-14 Thread FuLLBLaSTstorm
Hey all, Recently I've run freebsd-update on my desktop machine, but it failed saying that it cannot save its files anymore to /var because the filesystem is full. now df shows something like this: # df /dev/ad0s1d253678 250630 -17248 107% /var I'm in the middle of solving the problem,

send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Roland Smith
Transferring files from my desktop to my laptop with rsync (over a point-to-point netowork connection) is extremely slow, maxing out at around 50 kB/s and often dropping to 0. Both systems show hardly any activity. Is this normal for rsync running over a network? There is a rsync daemon running on

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Robert Huff
Da Rock writes: > I'm sorry, but the only image I could conjure up for a > pointy-haired boss was Bart Simpson in a suit (or Lisa as > President) :D > > Do you have another image in mind? You are obviously not familiar with the comic strip "Dilbert" written by Scott Adams. Please

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Transferring files from my desktop to my laptop with rsync (over a point-to-point netowork connection) is extremely slow, maxing out at around 50 kB/s and often dropping to 0. Both systems show hardly any activity. Is this normal for rsync running over a network? There is a no. rsync daemon r

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread FBSD UG
On 12 dec 2008, at 20:32, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I disagree. I believe, rather, that support for closed hardware specs isn't *as* important -- but is still at least somewhat important. My reservation to the 3D driver thing is it is setting a very dangerous precedent if the solution inv

Re: Canonical way for DHCP->IP->/etc/hosts

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again - however the htdig search interface for the lists is somewhat shaky and gives referrer errors for me. Pre-conditions. Dualhomed firewalled FreeBSD7.1. One nic is LAN and the other dynamical IP from ISP. Question: What is the can

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread FBSD UG
On 12 dec 2008, at 21:54, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:35:59 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: They do this to hide their hardware faults that way - that's the true reason they do this. With new hardware produced every year it MUST be buggy and certainly there are thousand

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 03:45:35PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Transferring files from my desktop to my laptop with rsync (over a > > point-to-point netowork connection) is extremely slow, maxing out at > > around 50 kB/s and often dropping to 0. Both systems show hardly any > > activity. Is

Re[4]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread KES
Здравствуйте, Polytropon. Вы писали 14 декабря 2008 г., 15:11:35: P> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:58:55 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar P> wrote: >> > su: Sorry >> > >> > >> > kes# pw user mod svn -s /bin/bash >> > kes# pw user show svn >> > svn:*:1005:1005::0:0:SVN user:/nonexistent:/bin/bash >> > kes#

Re[4]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
P> (3) Regarding su, check for wheel group inclusion. wrong. wheel group is needed to su to root,not from root ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
it may be problem with autoconfiguration of speed and half/full duplex. try setting it manually on one or both sides. Both were showing 100baseTX full-duplex on autoselect. Setting both manually with 'ifconfig [rl1|xl0] media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex' didn't improve things. try half-dup

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Your talking about things without providing any evidence as usual. It's just bollocks. NVidia has fabulous 3dgraphics cards and their drivers work very very well. At least they do on solaris (32/64bit). ...and Mac OSX and Linux and even Windows well is said too much at least compared to adver

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread FBSD UG
SO - please just stop ALL NTG topics here. this group really lacks moderator. not someone that will remove posts he considers "lame" but all that is off topic. Off topic=not about FreeBSD OS. I'm amazed that you seem to think that making FreeBSD do what one wants it to do isn't a FreeBSD

wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread Tomás Rodriguez
Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? thanks Tomas - Original Message > From: Tomás Rodriguez > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:31:03 AM > Subject: I need Install DB2 in Freebsd with a t

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Off topic=not about FreeBSD OS. I'm amazed that you seem to think that making FreeBSD do what one wants it to do isn't a FreeBSD topic. exactly... when is something part of FBSD and when not? what is "base system" all the ports aren't? port system (script and Makefiles) are part of FreeB

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? NTG. simply read webpages on FreeBSD, NetBSD and HPUX and compare. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/f

Re: Canonical way for DHCP->IP->/etc/hosts

2008-12-14 Thread Roger Olofsson
Jeff Laine skrev: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:00:12PM +0100, Roger Olofsson wrote: Dear mailing list, I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again - however the htdig search interface for the lists is somewhat shaky and gives referrer errors for me. Pre-conditions. Dualho

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:50:09 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among > > freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? > NTG. Found a new hobby? Cyber Police? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv103 ++

Detecting network memory leaks using netstat -m

2008-12-14 Thread Yehonatan Yossef
Hi All, I'm trying to find out whether my ethernet driver is leaking. I just found out about netstat -m, but I don't understand some of it's output. Can somebody explain me what is "mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use" ? My output shows it raised significantly during equilibrium aft

Detecting network memory leaks using netstat -m

2008-12-14 Thread Yony Yossef
Hi All, I'm trying to find out whether my ethernet driver is leaking. I just found out about netstat -m, but I don't understand some of it's output. Can somebody explain me what is "mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use" ? My output shows it raised significantly during equilibrium a

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread Chris
On Dec 14, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Tomás Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? Your question is too broad for a meaningful answer. You could ask it more specifically based on what you are trying to decide. It would be a mass

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 14 Dec 2008 at 07:43:38 PST Toms Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? Wikipedia has articles on all three of these. You might want to start there in order to get an overview and to get some familiarity with the si

Re: freebsd-update killed my /var

2008-12-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2008-12-14 19:28:16 UTC+0500, FuLLBLaSTstorm (fullblastst...@gmail.com) wrote: > Recently I've run freebsd-update on my desktop machine, but it failed > saying that it cannot save its files anymore to /var because the > filesystem is full. If you are short on disk space then from what I c

Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sat 2008-12-13 17:02:48 UTC-0500, Glen Barber (glen.j.bar...@gmail.com) wrote: > >i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a "your mail was > > opened > >on u...@foo.com". i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not > > see how to > >get a similar ack fr

Re: Release schedules

2008-12-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sat 2008-12-13 19:05:35 UTC+, Matthew Seaman (m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk) wrote: > Ports aren't actually frozen at the moment. Neither are they > completely open for any sort of updates. Instead they're in a 'slush' > -- no sweeping changes permitted, no major changes to the > infra

Cluster-wide installation of FreeBSD

2008-12-14 Thread Nikola Knežević
Hi, I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.1, and now I would like to "replicate" it to other machines in our cluster. Other machines have smaller disks, and a different processor, but all are amd64. Is there a way to do this kind of installation (either by copying content, or installing and

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2008-12-14 16:50:09 UTC+0100, Wojciech Puchar (woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) wrote: >> Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among >> freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? > NTG. I had to look up what NTG stood for. Not This Group? Is freebsd-questions a "group"? NEHTBAA

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Dan
Julien Cigar(jci...@ulb.ac.be)@2008.12.11 16:23:04 +0100: > "except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so > natural to just unplug an USB device That's not an excuse for the kernel panic. The real problem is the kernel code rot. They can't fix the problem because the cod

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread prad
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:54:19 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > in my practice rejecting part of customers (those who are really > "idiots") make sense. you get say 20% less money for 10 times less > work. > exactly! proper advocacy on a 'free' (or otherwise) system doesn't mean accommodating r

Disk Errors

2008-12-14 Thread Jason C. Wells
I am working on installing 6.4-RELEASE on a Motorola CPN5360 which is an industrial CompactPCI computer. The system boots via PXE. That much is good. The host has two storage devices. This is a 16MB boot flash device that is soldered to the board. ad0: FAILURE - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MOD

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Nikola Lečić
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:20:23 -0800 (PST) cuongvt wrote: > Hi, > I know that IM support japanese text. > On Freebsd 7.0 with latest imagemagick built from port (6.4.7) and > msgothic.ttc copied from windows partition, > imagick extension of PHP i

Re: Release schedules

2008-12-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
andrew clarke wrote: On Sat 2008-12-13 19:05:35 UTC+, Matthew Seaman (m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk) wrote: Ports aren't actually frozen at the moment. Neither are they completely open for any sort of updates. Instead they're in a 'slush' -- no sweeping changes permitted, no major chan

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Nikola Lečić
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:03:18 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > NTG > please do ask on imagemagick support! Interestingly, he did (and, as it appears, before you replied): http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12

Quite Stumped here, need suggestions

2008-12-14 Thread Robert Richards
Hi All: I am running: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Oct 5 15:31:05 EDT 2008 On a Sager 8800 Laptop. I have had FreeBSD installed for about a year, and all is working perfectly. I can bring up KDE, run many apps, all without a problem, except for ONE recent development. Every so often FreeBSD ini

Re: Quite Stumped here, need suggestions

2008-12-14 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 12/14/08, Robert Richards wrote: > Hi All: > > I am running: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Oct 5 15:31:05 EDT 2008 > On a Sager 8800 Laptop. I have had FreeBSD installed for about a year, > and all is working perfectly. I can bring up KDE, run many apps, all > without a problem, except for ON

Re: Quite Stumped here, need suggestions

2008-12-14 Thread Roger Olofsson
Robert Richards skrev: Hi All: I am running: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Oct 5 15:31:05 EDT 2008 On a Sager 8800 Laptop. I have had FreeBSD installed for about a year, and all is working perfectly. I can bring up KDE, run many apps, all without a problem, except for ONE recent development.

Re: GPL version 4

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Kirkwood
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:31:15 +0800, Morton Harrow said: I see with pain in my heart that the GPLv3 doesn't actually give the users of GPLv3 software the liberty and freedom the FSF has been fighting for. Instead they are forced to play by the strict set of term

Re: Re[2]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread David Weintraub
So, just to clarify... On one machine: $ su svn Will change you to the "svn" user while on another machine: $ su svn Will output: su: Sorry The problem would be the configuration of the two machines and not a Subversion issue. You may want to try the BSD list about why you have these

Re: Quite Stumped here, need suggestions

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Where to look? What to try? I am truly stumped here. at logs. it look like SOMETHING (or someone ;) initiates such shutdown. i don't remember case where FreeBSD would shutdown itself the way you said - cleanly, closing all programs etc - in case of panic/kernel error. __

Re: wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX?

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hi everybody somebody cand explain me wich are the difference among freebsd, NetBsd and HPUX? NTG. Found a new hobby? Cyber Police? even more NTG ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-quest

Re: Disk Errors

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ad2: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=0 ad2: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=1 ad2: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=1 The flash drive is detected with 3940272 sectors. Is there a way to control the LBA= parameter? Does it matter if I try? no. How can I contr

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me _as a FreeBSD user_. You are of course not obliged to reply at all. The fact that peo

Re: Cluster-wide installation of FreeBSD

2008-12-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:12:21 +0100, Nikola Knežević wrote: > Hi, > > I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.1, and now I would like to > "replicate" it to other machines in our cluster. Other machines have > smaller disks, and a different processor, but all are amd64. > > Is there a way to do t

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 14 Dec 2008 at 11:17:27 PST Nikola Le??i?? wrote: There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me _as a FreeBSD user_. You are

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> it may be problem with autoconfiguration of speed and half/full duplex. > >> try setting it manually on one or both sides. > > > > Both were showing 100baseTX full-duplex on autoselect. Setting both > > manually with 'ifconf

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:25:01 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > Swapping the rl(4) card for a xl(4) card did the trick. I can now > saturate the line in both directions. I think I'm going to scrap the > other rl(4) card in my machine as well and replace it with an fxp(4) card. Yeah... something I did s

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
:-( :-( :-) Swapping the rl(4) card for a xl(4) card did the trick. I can now saturate the line in both directions. I think I'm going to scrap the other rl(4) card in my machine as well and replace it with an fxp(4) card. no. realtek cards are not bad by desi

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:18:47 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> There are some of us here who are interested in all things related to >> Unicode and complex scripts questions; we are interested to have such >> things working on FreeBSD. The OP's question was very interesting to me >> _as a Fr

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:42:31 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > realtek cards are not bad by design. this particular was broken I always found Realtek cards okay because they would work everywhere, nearly every OS supported them. But especially the RTL8139, if I remember correctly, was so bus

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread michael
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: after reading all these posts, i've still come up with this answer after looking .. "freebsd - the power to serve" Might one reasonably surmise that "the power to serve" implies doing a good job of running server software? Like mail servers, FTP servers, web

Re: Re[4]: can not start SVNserve

2008-12-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:32:42 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > P> (3) Regarding su, check for wheel group inclusion. > wrong. wheel group is needed to su to root,not from root Right. Wow... I'm so stupid... must already be epidemic dementia. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, German

Re: send performance of rl(4)

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I always found Realtek cards okay because they would work everywhere, nearly every OS supported them. But especially the RTL8139, if I remember correctly, was so busy generating IRQs that it didn't find the time to have a good performance. :-) but it works very well. in places when there is no

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The name is `freebsd-questions' not `freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'. Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort of it's only Your opinion. My opinion is different. This list gets t

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> The name is `freebsd-questions' not >> `freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'. >> >> Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to >> convince you, but you are _harming_ the Project by posting this sort

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread vuthecuong
Glen Barber-2 wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >>> >>> The name is `freebsd-questions' not >>> `freebsd-questions-about-the-base-system-only'. >>> >>> Wojciech, I am aware that this is probably going to be hardly enough to >>> convince you, but you are _harm

Re: GPL version 4

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Marco Peereboom wrote: All this GPL blah blah is a huge waste of time. It comes down to this; nearly everyone on this list thinks that the GPL is criminally stupid so stop trying to convince people here that it does not suck dog ass. Lets not have this retarded debate again, *we* know *you* are

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM, vuthecuong wrote: > > Hi all > Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to > freebsd. > I will pay attention so that this wrong posting will not occurr again. > This is my fault. No, it is not. Questions@ is a general list for general F

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread matt donovan
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM, vuthecuong wrote: > > > > Hi all > > Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to > > freebsd. > > I will pay attention so that this wrong posting will not occurr again. > > This is my

control character file names

2008-12-14 Thread Noah
Hi there, there is a blank directory that I cant seem to view. I believe the directory is a '^M'. can somebody please explain how I can see filenames and directories containing control characters. Also how do I rename the directory with 'mv'? Cheers, Noah ___

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than > grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let em get their skills and > experience in how *nix in general works on something a little easier > (for MIB lovers: noi

Re: imagemagick convert: japanese text broken in freebsd

2008-12-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:23 -0800 (PST), vuthecuong wrote: > Hi all > Firstly I'm terribly sorry for wrongly posted question not related to > freebsd. I will pay attention so that this wrong posting will not > occurr again. This is my fault. > > But I admit that freebsd-questions mailing list

Re: control character file names

2008-12-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:21:22 -0800, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > there is a blank directory that I cant seem to view. I believe the > directory is a '^M'. can somebody please explain how I can see > filenames and directories containing control characters. Also how do > I rename the directory wit

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