Re: Monitoring Threshold Interface

2008-12-11 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 11:57:34 Gian Paolo Buono wrote: > Hi, > > I would like monitoring an interface and allarm if it exceeds the threshold > of 900 Mbit. > > Do you know any struments ? net/bmon can monitor and put into a database or dump to text file. From there anything is possible. I

Re: How to block NIS logins via ssh?

2008-12-11 Thread Mel
On Thursday 11 December 2008 08:10:09 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Given, there's several solutions to this: > > 1) The Kluge as above. > > 2) A pam module to check /etc/group (this is standard login behavior, and > historically supported, and available on other platforms, adding a module, >

Re: FreeBSD update warns about 7.0 end of life

2008-12-11 Thread Shaowei Wang (wsw)
The FreeBSD-7.1 is coming soon and we should let 7.0 go ... [?] On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joe S writes: > > > When running freebsd-update on FreeBSD 7.0, I noticed this message: > > > > WARNING: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life

Re: Monitoring Threshold Interface

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 11 December 2008 10:04:30 Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 11:57:34 Gian Paolo Buono wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like monitoring an interface and allarm if it exceeds the > > threshold of 900 Mbit. > > > > Do you know any struments ? > > net/bmon can monitor and put into a

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Da Rock wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > >> IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, >> it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed >> a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization >>

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 12:14 -0800, prad wrote: > On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:35:17 +0100 > Uwe Laverenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Who is "most freebsd users"? > > > i would think most are interested in running servers or routers or > possible scientific applications or engaged in os study and ap

Re: PostgreSQL on FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 with more than 2GB shared memory

2008-12-11 Thread Ivan Voras
Hell, Robert wrote: > I just found a bug report for that issue: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121423&cat= Try asking on current@ - I think there were some patches available some time ago. > -Original Message- > From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mittw

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a bit for windows is not a problem. Those who need to do actual work, we have FreeBSD fo

Re: How to block NIS logins via ssh?

2008-12-11 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:11:26 +0100 Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thursday 11 December 2008 08:10:09 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >> Given, there's several solutions to this: >> >> 1) The Kluge as above. >> >> 2) A pam module to check /etc/group (this is standard login >> behavior, and h

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread FBSD UG
On 11 dec 2008, at 12:28, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a bit for windows is not a problem

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
that's the most narrow minded post i've seen here since i'm on this group or your narrow mail reading . As if the only work that can be considered real work is the work you do... The reason why I CAN'T do any serious work on FreeBSD is because it lacks the NVidia drivers (i'm in the film/comm

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:28:00 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying >a bit for windows is not a problem. > >Those who need to do actual work, we have FreeBSD for example Define: 'Actual Work'? What you are ref

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:19:14 -0500, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Define: 'Actual Work'? What you are referring to is that it meets your > criteria. Everyone's work platform might not be so narrow. ometimes, "actual work" may be entertainment, gaming, or programming obscure hardware platforms

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Ole
BTW on the http://forums.freebsd.org number of multimedia-related questions is more than server-side ;) And this is fact - FreeBSD become to Desktop due to work of many peoples who porting multimedia application to FreeBSD. Therefore this functional be want. But without good supports of hardware

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Julien Cigar
Just to share my point of view : I use FreeBSD only since 6.2, before that I was a long-time Debian user. For the little experience I have with it I must admit that it looks pretty solid and a perfect choice for a "server" (for proof: I replaced almost all my Debian boxes with FreeBSD, both at wor

Issue on asterisk port in latest CVSUP

2008-12-11 Thread Kenneth Tan
Hi, I found that the update for Asterisk update is broken after run the latest CVS update and portupgrade. The system is not able to find the correct files from the sources. Please check on that. Thank you Kenneth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mai

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:46:49PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > > IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, > > it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed > > a desire to support FreeBSD;

FreeBSD amd64 crash - why?

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i have regular crashes (kernel panic+reboots) every about a month. any idea why? last time i built kernel with debug symbols, here what i get with kgdb any help is very welcome :) Script started on Thu Dec 11 15:48:08 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.0 GNU

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
At work, FreeBSD and Solaris are present. For some fields of use, I would not FreeBSD instead of Solaris. However, I found isn't the reason to using solaris just the need to run solaris-only binary software? no operating system that could replace FreeBSD in the fields where I use it. As in

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
- on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some problems, but it's still impossible to burn a DVD for example. i don't have. i use

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Julien Cigar
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:56 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > - on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly > > things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling > > ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some > > problems, b

Re: FreeBSD amd64 crash - why?

2008-12-11 Thread Ivan Voras
Wojciech Puchar wrote: (kgdb) bt\  #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:195 #1 0x0004 in ?? () #2 0x8029cde9 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 #3 0x8029d202 in panic (fmt=0x104 ) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 #4 0x804da163 in tra

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Ole
Also you can use portupgrade -PP -PP --use-packages-onlyNever use the port even if a package is not avail- able either locally or remotely, although you still have to keep your ports tree up-to-date so

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Huff
Wojciech Puchar writes: > > At work, FreeBSD and Solaris are present. For some fields of > > use, I would not FreeBSD instead of Solaris. However, I found > > isn't the reason to using solaris just the need to run > solaris-only binary software? I believe there are cases where the

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
for multiple OSes, but offers official support for only some of them. If having vendor support is a deal-breaker - either for operational or contractual reasons - and the only alternative to Solaris is Windows well - solaris is not that bad. it's unix, you can work on it "normally", it's

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
"except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so natural to just unplug an USB device it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.o

Re: update packages or reinstall

2008-12-11 Thread Glen Barber
Gary Hartl said: > > I'm considering just wiping the system clean and starting from scratch to > say either 6.4-release or 7.0 release. > For what it's worth, I've (so far) had 50% luck with 7.1. My home server runs nothing special, mostly development stuff and the occasional X session. I a

(no subject)

2008-12-11 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Okay, new problem with regard to netgroups, NIS, and Pam: Given the following situation: * I want to be able to have su work normally in the event of an NIS disconnect, since I will likely need to su to fix said disconnect. * The wheel group needs to stay local * I want su to still use group

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:10:18 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, > > it's so natural to just unplug an USB device > > it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix... On a modern UNIX (l

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:09:39 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well - solaris is not that bad. it's unix, you can work on it > "normally", it's just slow etc... Considering the things the system is doing for me it certainly is not slow. It's a rock-solid UNIX but like sendm

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Julien Cigar
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 17:10 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > "except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so > > natural to just unplug an USB device > > it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix... > true too .. :) ___

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:23:04 +0100, Julien Cigar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> you may pkg_add from ftp repository > > of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade You can use: portupgrade -PP "pkgname" This will only use pre-compiled packages to upgrade. ___

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread eculp
Quoting Julien Cigar : On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:56 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > - on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly > things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling > ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO > work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. > i'm not so sure that is really "THAT good". bells and whistles if not carefully thought out and implemented

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 11 Dec 2008 at 10:37:42 PST prad wrote: while i agree with you as far as having suitable driver accessibility, i don't see why one system needs to try to be all things to all people. I agree. But if FreeBSD isn't trying to be all things to all people, the implication is that it IS tryin

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:44:23PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >that's the most narrow minded post i've seen here since i'm on this group > > or your narrow mail reading . > >As if the only work that can be considered real work is the work you do... > > > >The reason why I CAN'T do any ser

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work > >in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. > > in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a > bit for wi

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 02:40:06PM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > Just to share my point of view : > > I use FreeBSD only since 6.2, before that I was a long-time Debian user. > For the little experience I have with it I must admit that it looks > pretty solid and a perfect choice for a "server" (fo

ftpd not chroot'ing

2008-12-11 Thread Gunther Mayer
Hi guys, I'm trying to set up a really simple, single account write only ftp service. So I put ftpd_enable="YES" ftpd_flags="-o -d" in my rc.conf and started the ftp server. Now I have a special password enabled user account called "camera" (none of the other accounts have passwords, all lo

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:09:51 -0800 Charlie Kester wrote: > The impression I get from the website is that FreeBSD is indeed trying > to be all things to all people. Did I miss something? > charlie, i think the point of that page is indicated here: "Here are some examples of the environments in wh

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
While OpenBSD has a great reputation as a "server" operating system, it for whom? ;) it's just overadvertised nothing more, having no adventage over FreeBSD in any point. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Please stop trolling. having different opinion than yours isn't trolling. and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because your is different. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:38:30PM +0300, Ole wrote: > Also you can use portupgrade -PP > >-PP > --use-packages-onlyNever use the port even if a package is not avail- > able either locally or remotely, although you > still have t

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
instead. This function sets in configure by program author and when you working with ports you can play this options I'd love to drop GNOME and KDE support for OO.o, but on my laptop I really don't have the resources to spare for compiling OO.o, so I live with whatever's in the package. Such is

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:32:20PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Please stop trolling. > having different opinion than yours isn't trolling. > and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because your is different. It's not just that you have a different opinion than me -- it's that every t

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 11 Dec 2008 at 11:32:57 PST prad wrote: charlie, i think the point of that page is indicated here: "Here are some examples of the environments in which FreeBSD is used" these are examples of freebsd's versatility, which is not the same as saying freebsd is ubiquitously versatile. admit

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Tyson Boellstorff
On Thursday 11 December 2008 13:55:04 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:32:20PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >Please stop trolling. > > > > having different opinion than yours isn't trolling. > > and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because your is different. > > It's not

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread michael
Tyson Boellstorff wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008 13:55:04 Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:32:20PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Please stop trolling. having different opinion than yours isn't trolling. and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because y

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Peter Harrison
Thursday, 11 December 2008 at 12:28:00 +0100, Wojciech Puchar said: > > > >The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work > >in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. > > in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a > bit for

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:12:19 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > Please stop trolling. > chad, i don't think this is fair to wojciech. he is expressing his feelings and considerable knowledge about an os that he doesn't want to go the way of certain others. i find he writes concisely and backs up his stat

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:23 -0800 Charlie Kester wrote: > Goals are one thing. How much progress you've made toward meeting > your goals is another. This thread has been about some things > FreeBSD still needs to do in order to meet what do seem to be, after > all, some of its goals. > true,

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:30:32 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > for whom? ;) it's just overadvertised nothing more, > ya well i'm not trying to do their advertising :D :D i merely copied it from their page. we did use openbsd for 1 yr for our servers and it was ok though some of the default s

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
Let me jump in again here. On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:46:22 -0800, prad wrote: > so performance, networking (and presumably serving), storage, > administration > and > documentation > would seem to be major matters of concern. That's a valid point. I definitely don't want to see these things changin

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:03:13 -0800, prad wrote: > well i thought the 3.9 fish was kinda cute, but beastie is still much > better! Yes, it is. =^_^= ---> http://www.spilth.org/pictures/girls/ceren/ -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa,

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
things changing. Because I have to administer and to program on FreeBSD, I enjoy (!) the excellent documentation. Everything is there, from system binaries, configuration files, maintenance procedures, system calls and kernel interfaces. Just look into i fully agree with you the Linux world -

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:06:35 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > in linux: > > man command > > this manual is no longer maintained. try info, google or wiki. maybe you > will find your documentation, maybe not. Or try this with third party software on FreeBSD, for example with KDE and its a

dialog run away processes

2008-12-11 Thread Noah
Hi there, sometimes I find there one or two processes with the command name of 'dialog' tacking the cpu on my freebsd machines. any clues what creates this situation and how I can circumvent the problem? It appears to happen around the time I run portmanager to update all the system ports.

Re: dialog run away processes

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:35:43 -0800, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > sometimes I find there one or two processes with the command name of > 'dialog' tacking the cpu on my freebsd machines. any clues what creates > this situation and how I can circumvent the problem? It appears to > happen around

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Bernt Hansson
Julien Cigar said the following on 2008-12-11 14:40: - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... is just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but it's being resolved I think). Of course you can use -j to build ports. Just cd to/your/port make

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > In Germany, we have the term "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (egg- > laying wool-milk-sow) > that is indeed a great term! > MICROS~1's customers want bugs, they get bugs because they paid > for them. :-) > :D may be the mac people can use your l

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:46:36PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>instead. This function sets in configure by program author and when you > >>working with ports you can play this options > > > >I'd love to drop GNOME and KDE support for OO.o, but on my laptop I > >really don't have the resources

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:44:06 -0800, prad wrote: > may be the mac people can use your line here in one of their > commercials :D But only if Mac OS X supports 8.3 filenames. :-) > > You give them computing power not imaginable 10 years ago, and > > they treat their system like a worse typewrite

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:23:03PM -0500, michael wrote: > I agree. nothing wrong with his posts. the mailing list was never > described as a warm, social gather. you want answers, and you get them > here. i for one would rather him be abrupt and short. no need for the > pomp and circumstance.

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:24:19PM -0800, prad wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:12:19 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Please stop trolling. > > > chad, i don't think this is fair to wojciech. he is expressing his > feelings and considerable knowledge about an os that he doesn't want to > go the w

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:46:22PM -0800, prad wrote: > > looking further we see: > "... As a result, FreeBSD may be found across the Internet, in the > operating > system of core router products, running root name servers, hosting > major web sites, and as the foundation for widely used desktop >

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush > others' beneath his heel. Try examining the definition of the word > "fair" before you use it in the future. > ok, chad, here's what you find on dictionary.com that are re

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:28:13 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > Can we stop trying to dissuade people > from improving FreeBSD, and from advocating for improvements? > i don't think that's really what is happening, chad. i think there is just some disagreement as to what is considered an improvement.

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:47:23PM -0800, prad wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush > > others' beneath his heel. Try examining the definition of the word > > "fair" before you use it in the futur

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 05:00:11PM -0800, prad wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:28:13 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Can we stop trying to dissuade people > > from improving FreeBSD, and from advocating for improvements? > > > i don't think that's really what is happening, chad. > i think there

updating php5-pcre

2008-12-11 Thread David Newman
7.0-RELEASE-p6 / i386 Using portmaster to update the php5-pcre port returns this error: Cannot find config.m4. Make sure that you run '/usr/local/bin/phpize' in the top level source directory of the module I'm not a php guru. Where is the top-level source directory for this module? Or is there s

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:46:54 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > My point exactly -- you rush to his defense, making statements that > seem intended to skewer me for things he has done. I don't consider > that the epitome of fairness. > i'm not trying to skewer you. i only stated that i didn't think it

NEED HELP FOR SUITABLE VERSION

2008-12-11 Thread hitech resources
*HI, i have PowerEdge(TM) 840, Quad Core Xeon Pro X3220 Processor, so what is the suitable version of FreeBSD i could use. I actually want to use it for server purposes. TQ -- * *Regards* Mohd Shamsi Hafiz Hi-Technology Resources Pekan Sungai Nibong 45400 Sekinchan Selangor, Malaysia _

Re: NEED HELP FOR SUITABLE VERSION

2008-12-11 Thread Sahil Tandon
hitech resources wrote: > *HI, i have PowerEdge(TM) 840, Quad Core Xeon Pro X3220 Processor, so what > is the suitable version of FreeBSD i could use. I actually want to use it > for server purposes. TQ 7 -- Sahil Tandon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Tyson Boellstorff
On Thursday 11 December 2008 19:58:14 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 05:00:11PM -0800, prad wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:28:13 -0700 > > > > i don't think that's really what is happening, chad. > > i think there is just some disagreement as to what is considered an > > improvemen

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread prad
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:58:14 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > So . . . are you saying that increased support for 3D accelerated > graphics is not an "improvement", and should therefore not be > considered a worthy goal? > no. access to hardware probably is a worthy goal, however, you need people to wr

Centralized DB of "system" users

2008-12-11 Thread Valentin Bud
Hello list, I don't know if the Subject says what i really want to achieve but i do hope that i will make myself understood. I work for a school and i want to install in 2 labs on very low performance computers (1 Ghz CPU, 126 Mb RAM) some linux distro (zen walk). I *need* to install linux beca