Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out

Windows Mobile connected via uppc-kmod, anyone?

2005-03-19 Thread Georg-W. Koltermann
Hi, I am trying to connect my BlueMedia PDA (rebrand of Yakumo Delta 300 GPS) to FreeBSD 5.3 using the uppc-kmod port. I am having problems to get the connection up. The ppp log shows that the link is established briefly but then immediately disconnects. It never makes it to talk to dccm. Is a

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would have pushed for open docs a long time ago. F

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Oh boo hoo. You never contacted me. Others in that past have. No, I > can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been > happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc. Ask the BSD/OS guys, > ask the OSDL guys, o

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or just experiment, as well as just

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 19 March 2005 04:03 am, Christian Tischler wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or > less, open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange > as my primary mail server. But its functionality for syncinig > calenders, documents and so on, seemed to

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 16:22, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Christian Tischler writes: > > > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not > > an consideration. > > For small installations, I don't think Exchange is really > cost-effective. It's quite a monster. Easy to jus

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug,

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:01, Jason Crawford wrote: > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > have pushed for open docs a long ti

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread Nick Pavlica
I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one working on Saturday. I understand the business aspect of things, I have business that rely on this technology as well. The developers "Robert W."... don't owe us anything because we are not paying them. We didn't marry into there family, and didn't p

printer gone beszerk

2005-03-19 Thread Karl Agee
FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk...and, I cant clear the queue. Here is some output: bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address associated with hostname Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. And it would be A LOT easier to write an open source driver if Scott had pushed to open the docs sooner

Re: printer gone beszerk

2005-03-19 Thread Chris
Karl Agee wrote: > FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk...and, I cant > clear the queue. > > Here is some output: > > bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp > Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address > associated with hostname > Warning: no daemon present > Rank Owner

Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-19 Thread em1897
You are a strange bird, Nick. Do what you want with your life, but don't preach your BS to others. No one cares how hard anyone works or how much they are paid if the work is crap. And if you're dumb enough to think that they really do it for "free", then you've been completely bamboozled and deser

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. [ ... ] You are the one making claims about what Fr

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
I never claimed that it was freebsd users that found it unacceptable. If you'll read my email, instead of just brushing through it, you'll see there isn't a part where I say, this is unacceptable to freebsd users. The fact that someone claims to support freedom of choice, and then removes choice fr

Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't, though? I'm loathe to replace the working installation if I don't have to. -- Kirk Strauser pgpP

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Jason Crawford
Theo has already talked with enough people to get the number of over 1,800 adaptec aac raid controllers being currently used by openbsd users. He has emailed this to Doug, Adaptec's contract for opening docs, and still nothing. It appears that Adaptec isn't interested in repeat business for probabl

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
Well spoken, Ben. Very well spoken. > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:21 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > > The hardware is tricky > > to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > > firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > > documented in my driver, and I'm happy to

how do i add 5.3 to my drive with w2k?

2005-03-19 Thread Gary Kline
hi gang, i just installed w2k with firefox and more on the 1st 10g of my 160g drive. i'm ready to install freebsd 5.3 on the remainder. can i get by using the default fbsd boot loader? tips and advice, please. gary -- Gary Kline

Mail Delivery Subsystem: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
Adaptec, as a vendor, really cares about you. That is why their commercial contacts disable their email accounts when the shit hits the fan. That is Doug Richardson Title? Global Channel Marketing Manager The guy who said *HE* was the one responsible for changing views within Adaptec. Buggy h

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Well, there is. We do it all the time! We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some

Re: aac support

2005-03-19 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: > > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Jerry Bell
I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. At my day job, we have 9 exchange servers around the world, with about 1500 mailboxes, so not a huge inst

Theo de Raadt

2005-03-19 Thread Morten Johansen
Bill Sommerfeld is one of the architects of NetBSD's SMP support, which was imported into OpenBSD recently. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html Subject: another wonderful Theoism. To: None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List: netbsd-users

Re: Theo de Raadt

2005-03-19 Thread Mario Hoerich
# Morten Johansen: [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html ] > > Date: 11/15/1993 16:27:50 [...] > Mr. Deraadt made the following [patently false] statement about the > FreeBSD team: [...] Well? Is there any point other than fanning the flames to this? Let's just sta

Re: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Marsh J. Ray
Charles Swiger wrote: On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Sorry, did not find the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/aac Yep, definitely not the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli. - Marsh J. Ray _

Does 5.3 support Raid 1 on VT8237?

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Freeze
Hi I am trying to install 5.3 on a system with an on board raid controller (VT8237), but am having troubles getting the installer to see the raid drive. I have configured the drive in the bios as Raid 1, but the installer shows two drives. Some helpful specs are: Motherboard: ECS EliteGroup PT80

Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket

2005-03-19 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 08:53:18PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > > > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. > > Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't, > though? I'm loathe to re

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Nick Pavlica writes: > I referenced the Novell GroupWise product. I'm not sure what you > were referencing with the generic "Groupware" that you mentioned. Within this context they are roughly the same thing. > It's clear that you have little knowledge of this technology and may > want to spend

Re: Question: USB block dev, Olympus Camedia digital camera

2005-03-19 Thread Robert Marella
Peer Böhm wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to BSD-style operating systems, and currently reading about and seriously considering a migration from Linux to free BSD on my home machine. Before I do that, I would like to make sure (as far as possible) that my critical applications will continue to work

RE: Adaptec AAC raid support

2005-03-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:43 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Theo de Raadt; freebsd list > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Maybe I was thinking of the PERC 3, then-- this one: >

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jim Durham writes: > Personally, I wouldn't wish Exchange on my worst enemy. It uses a > database to store mail and, if that database becomes corrupted, > you can lose all the email for the company. All e-mail systems use a database of some type; the only differences are in how visible the struc

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Jeays writes: > I have to disagree with this! In my organization, a government > department with about 6,000 staff ... I said FOR SMALL INSTALLATIONS, not organizations of 6000 people. I'm thinking more of small businesses with a single geographic location and perhaps in the range of 100 e

Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?

2005-03-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jerry Bell writes: > I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility > service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their > shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. They get spoiled. I suppose there's no harm in that intrinsically, but it does

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