On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 15:56 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 8:00 AM -0500 2/11/05, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
[...]
> >Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and
> >not by commercial matters,
FreeBSD is a commercially viable operating system. I happen to think
it's the be
On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and
not by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that
is trying to steer FreeBS
At 10:09 PM -0800 2/10/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> While you seem determined to pretend that Robert Watson is
> somehow the sole person interested in this, let me note I am
> one of the FreeBSD committers who would like to see some new
> ideas for a logo.
Good. At least you have my respect n
At 4:34 PM -0500 2/11/05, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
FreeBSD is driven by commercial matters. Many of the people that
work on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are
using it commercially.
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid
t
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Many of the people that work
> on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
> commercially.
That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
code written by their employees; this is a classic implicit
work-for-hire ar
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 21:31 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> What if they put it
> to a vote and the userbase all votes for logos that clearly
> represent the Beastie image? What will have been the point of
> the contest?
I am a FreeBSD user. I read and sometimes respond to several of the
lis
Frank Laszlo writes:
> I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
> work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to write something by your employer, your
employe
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 4:34 PM -0500 2/11/05, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
FreeBSD is driven by commercial matters. Many of the people that
work on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are
using it commercially.
I wouldnt say many, there are few commit
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few
> is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who
> do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own
> time as well, and I salute that. But a lo
Jan Branbergen wrote:
I would like to install SQL here for my own use, not for any real life
currently, round now for learning.
Right now plan to install MySQL.
Looking through the ports there is numerous version and some say for
server, some say for client.
Looking for some tips as to what version
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Frank Laszlo writes:
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to write something by y
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Many of the people that work
on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
commercially.
That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
code written by their employees
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Frank Laszlo writes:
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few
is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who
do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own
Frank Laszlo writes:
> I was refering to commiters paid BY FreeBSD to provide code.
Ah ... I am reassured! You should always make that crystal-clear
whenever you mention this in discussions with anybody. Any rumor
started to the contrary could kill off interest in the OS in anyone
considering i
On Friday 11 February 2005 04:11 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> > Many of the people that work
> > on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
> > commercially.
>
> That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
> cod
Hello,
regarding Bind 9, here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bind9.html
its stated that the configuration file resides in
/var/named/etc/namedb/ and that bind will be chrooted automatically.
Yet here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handboo
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Look in the codebase
No, tell me right here. CIOs aren't going to look in the codebase to
try to find out if it's legal for them to use the operating system.
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On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 17:17 -0500, Sean wrote:
>
> What is the difference between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
> From what I see MySQL seems to be more common.
They are completely separate projects. Postgresql grew out of an
academic project (ingres), mysql was developed by a commercial
organisation b
On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:11 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank J. Laszlo writes:
> > Who says it has to be small?
>
> Business cards and letterheads say that.
>
> Logos are often reproduced at very small sizes, even on large
> documents. They often appear in a corner o
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:16 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> > many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a
> > few is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a
> > handful who do it as more than a hobb
after a lil bit of "research" on google, ive stumbled across this one, which
just rounds up what anyone would tell about it.
wrote:http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/showthread.php?t=161
there are prolly other articles that say more, but this one just seems to fit
your needs, short and to th
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:13 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Laszlo writes:
> > I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid
> > to work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
>
> What written agreements do these committers have with th
i guess you would have to set the bind directory to be jailed in the rc.conf,
but thats just a guess, i have no dns running on a bsd here.
Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at
On Friday 11 February 2005 23:29, kilim wrote:
> Hello,
>
> regarding Bind 9, here:
>
> http://
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Their employers are paying them TO WORK on FreeBSD. They are not taking
> their code that they write for their employers and also sticking it in
> FreeBSD. Big difference.
Not if their work consists of writing code. In that case, the copyright
in the code b
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Sorry, but the employers are freely offering the code and assigning
> copyrights as necessary.
OK, as long as the copyrights are assigned before any of the code finds
its way into the released product.
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Look in the codebase
No, tell me right here. CIOs aren't going to look in the codebase to
try to find out if it's legal for them to use the operating system.
You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
You m
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Their employers are paying them TO WORK on FreeBSD. They are not
taking
their code that they write for their employers and also sticking it in
FreeBSD. Big difference.
Not if their work consists of writing c
Andrew L. Gould writes:
> That's an assumption.
The project needs to ask for proof of this, and not simply assume it.
> We could as easily assume that the employers:
Never assume anything in law. A wrong assumption could bury the
project.
--
Anthony
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> Hmmm, let's see, Anthony Atielski, 30 posts on this subject alone, on a
> tech help list. Makes you wonder what sort of priorities you have.
At the moment, I'm worried about FreeBSD.
> Anyway, if you feel that way then let the thread die, or take it to
> -advocacy.
I re
Can I suggest a new mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter.
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 23:42 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Andrew L. Gould writes:
>
> > That's an assumption.
>
> The project needs to ask for proof of this, and not simply assume it.
>
> > We could as easily assume that the emplo
Sean wrote:
What is the difference between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
From what I see MySQL seems to be more common.
Sean
There are a lot of threads on a forum I frequent (www.phpbuilder.com/board)
that address this issue. Here are a few links.
http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/showthread.php?thread
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> I don't think you understand the history of FreeBSD. Many people who
> work at Yahoo! are committers, and their employer not only knows about
> this but encourages it.
That's not good enough. The employer has to assign its copyrights as
well, or waive the usual work-for-h
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> Do you have any proof of malfeasence?
I don't need it. That's the way copyright normally works; it's not
malfeasance. In order to protect the project, the status of copyright
in all code written for the project must be very clearly established, in
writing.
> Are you pla
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:50, Matt Rechkemmer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> These are probably RTFM questions, but I didn't seem to find a mention of
> the base system packages in the UPGRADING document. So how would one
> update a base package, check it o
On Friday 11 February 2005 04:17 pm, Sean wrote:
>
> What is the difference between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
> From what I see MySQL seems to be more common.
>
> Sean
What.not enough holy wars this week? ;-)
PostgreSQL and MySQL are both good database server applications. Here
are some
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
Be sure to tell the CIOs that. That'll do wonders for adoption of
FreeBSD.
> You make assumptions that just because someone is paying someone to
> work on FreeBSD that no one has thought of the copyright implicat
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Joshua Tinnin writes:
I don't think you understand the history of FreeBSD. Many people who
work at Yahoo! are committers, and their employer not only knows about
this but encourages it.
That's not good enough. The employer has to assign its cop
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
Be sure to tell the CIOs that. That'll do wonders for adoption of
FreeBSD.
CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
Chad
You make assump
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> I don't know. Go ask them. Look in the codebase yourself, or pay
> someone to do so.
Is this what you would tell someone contemplating a multimillion-dollar
investment in a FreeBSD rollout to 10,000 servers? "I don't know"? "Look
it up yourself"?
This proj
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> This is not the right place to ask such questions.
Why is it called freebsd-questions?
> If you are
> *seriously* concerned about this, and do not think that the FreeBSD
> core / foundation and their lawyers have not thought about this, then
> you should b
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
But some of us hanging out on such lists have to answer these questions
when talking to CIOs. And saying "I don't know" just doesn't wash.
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On Friday 11 February 2005 02:44 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Tinnin writes:
> > Hmmm, let's see, Anthony Atielski, 30 posts on this subject alone,
> > on a tech help list. Makes you wonder what sort of priorities you
> > have.
>
> At the moment, I'm worried about Free
Does anyone knows how can i configure Squid as a Transparent proxy
using IPFW assuming that i have already configured Squid with Samba
authentication.
I've configure Squid that allow users to log on pages using their smb
account but i have to configure every computer on my Lan to connect to
the
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
But some of us hanging out on such lists have to answer these questions
when talking to CIOs. And saying "I don't know" just doesn't wash.
And
-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Diego Camarena
>González
>Subject: configuring Squid as a Transparent proxy in BSD with ipfw
>
>
>Does anyone knows how can i configure Squid as a Transparent proxy
>using IPFW assuming that i have already co
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 23:29 schrieb kilim:
> Hello,
>
> regarding Bind 9, here:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bind9.htm
>l
>
> its stated that the configuration file resides in
> /var/named/etc/namedb/ and that bind will be chrooted automatically.
>
>
On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
Typical. Cut out the rest of what I said.
You need to ask the right people, not t
athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
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> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such.
Maybe worse.
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
This is a mailing list for questions about how to use FreeBSD, not why
you should
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
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On February 11, 2005 05:17 pm, Sean wrote:
> Jan Branbergen wrote:
> >>I would like to install SQL here for my own use, not for any real life
> >>
> >>currently, round now for learning.
> >>
> >>Right now plan to install MySQL.
> >>Looking through the ports there is numerous version and some say fo
Then again, you could just ride the fence and install them both . . .
I'd also suggest you start with MySQL though. As mentioned
previously, it's the more commonly used DB. I started with
PostgreSQL, and wound up having to install MySQL anyway because I
wanted to try some apps that requred it.
Peter Risdon wrote:
Postgresql is an excellent dbms and well worth a look. But if you're
starting out, I think mysql is the place to be.
Ok, since the discussion is up, I have used MySQL for years, no problem
serves my needs. Yet, I'd like to try out that PostgreSQL so many talks
about. So, how d
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 19:18, Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Peter Risdon wrote:
> > Postgresql is an excellent dbms and well worth a look. But if you're
> > starting out, I think mysql is the place to be.
>
> Ok, since the discussion is up, I have used MySQL for years, no problem
> serves my needs. Yet,
well, i havent done that one yet, but you might want to have a look onto
this page, that i just "discovered" via google:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/site-mysql-postgresql-1
there are many more articles about this one.
i hope this helps you further.
Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staf
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
>
> I was beginning to suspect some such.
> Maybe worse.
>
> jerry
>
Jerry and Eric
If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
some of my previous posts. I thank yo
At 2:56 PM -0800 2/11/05, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:44 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> > Hmmm, let's see, Anthony Atielski, 30 posts on this subject
> > alone, on a tech help list. Makes you wonder what sort of
> > priorities you
From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Because FreeBSD is a server, not a desktop.
Agree and disagree. While FreeBSD is well suited for the server, it's also
well suited for the desktop. That doesn't mean that we should be stressing
the desktop to those shopping for servers, instead
HP Pavillion zv5445us shuts down during install of 5.3
Right after the screen when you can choose to disable ACPI or to boot in
SafeMode (both of which I tried), after making a selection - it
shutsdown. I'm trying to install 5.3 from both floppies and CD1. I'm
dualbooting Win XP Pro using Part
On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such.
Maybe worse.
jerry
Jerry and Eric
If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
some of my
On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Johnson David wrote:
From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because FreeBSD is a server, not a desktop.
Agree and disagree. While FreeBSD is well suited for the server, it's
also
well suited for the desktop.
Anthony had the same misguided opinion in the Apac
> If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your
> view points.
(speaking on behalf of Jerry as well as myself, and making some wild
assumptions about Jerry based on his previous posts) Always glad to
h
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire. Net LLC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>>
> >>> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >>
> >> I was beginning to suspect some
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Screenshots say _absolutely nothing_ about what an OS can do as a
server. And FreeBSD is not any more suitable for the desktop than Linux
(which is to say, it's hardly usable at all).
Now, I've deleted all the context, but that's quite a
generalization there in that sec
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 03:53:12PM -0500, Ben Dover wrote:
> I added the following to the top of my wine config file and the
> stoppable errors went away.
>
> [Drive C]
> "Path" = "/windows"
> "Type" = "hd"
> "Label" = "msdos"
> "Filesystem" = "win98"
>
>
> Note that "Path" = "/windows" is the
>
> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > >
> > > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >
> > I was beginning to suspect some such.
> > Maybe worse.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> Jerry and Eric
>
> If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> some of
Johnson David wrote:
Currently Windows rules the desktop world, even for diehard Unix shops. But
that will not last forever. We need to start thinking about the desktop
today. We need to stop the official discouragement of desktop FreeBSD.
MacOS X is the "Desktop BSD". It is available today, and i
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
> Actually, I haven't.
I have, but mainly with hardware that I would normally use only on the
desktop. I ended up connecting it to Windows instead.
FreeBSD has good support for hardware that you'd use on a server--better
than that provided by Windows.
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I installed firefox from the packages, and now that it seems
like I may have Java installed, I'd like to get the two to play
together.
I see a few different firefox plugins in /usr/ports/www, but no
java, and I don't see any references to firefox or plugs in
/usr/ports/java - clearly, I'm missing
On Friday 11 February 2005 04:36 pm, Garance A Drosihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> At 2:56 PM -0800 2/11/05, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
> >On Friday 11 February 2005 02:44 pm, Anthony Atkielski
> >
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Joshua Tinnin writes:
> > > > Hmmm, let's see, Anthony Atielski, 30
Kevin Kinsey writes:
> IIRC, this was the sort of thing that caused a few people to
> killfile your address a couple years back.
The sort of teenage-boy attitude that causes some people to killfile
others is one of the worst handicaps of the FreeBSD project. It is bad
enough that I hesitate to c
Matthias Buelow writes:
> MacOS X is the "Desktop BSD". It is available today, and it works
> better than anything else at being a "desktop". Considering the sorry
> state of integrated "desktops" on Unix today (i.e., Gnome and KDE) and
> compare it with Windows, do you really think that will co
On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Kevin Kinsey writes:
IIRC, this was the sort of thing that caused a few people to
killfile your address a couple years back.
The sort of teenage-boy attitude that causes some people to killfile
others is one of the worst handicaps of the FreeBSD
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Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> This is also ridiculous. No CEO or CIO is going to give a RAT's ASS
> about what is said in a mailing list about a particular product.
Probably. But the problem is that there is nothing else with FreeBSD.
If you want support, you post to a mailing list, an
On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
On a related note: Balmer's big mouth hasn't killed Windows
yet either.
Only because Gates built the company up into a successful multinational
with a lot of inertia before Balmer took the helm. But that big mouth
is still a liability for the
Hey, could not help following this "beastie" logo thing in
freeBSD-questions. Wow, who would have thought that all these usually sane,
inovative, freeBSD loving posters could be so fierce. Good for them(you)!
I thought the logo was anti-God when I first saw it and was afriad of it, in
a way. Af
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:11 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>>
> >>> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >>
> >> I was beginning to suspect some such.
> >> Maybe worse.
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 19:18 -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:
> > If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> > some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your
> > view points.
>
> (speaking on behalf of Jerry as well as myself, and making some wild
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> I am not a Steve lover, but lumping Jobs in there with Balmer and
> Ellison is not fair. Steve has a lot more respect than that and uses
> his bully-pulpit well.
Maybe. But none of them is a Lou Gerstner or Jack Welch or even a Carly
Fiona (peace be upon h
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:11 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 20:55 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > >
> > > > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> > >
> > > I was beginning to suspect some such.
> > > Maybe worse.
> > >
> > > jerry
> > >
> > Jerry and Eric
> >
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 03:14 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
> Johnson David wrote:
>
> > Currently Windows rules the desktop world, even for diehard Unix shops. But
> > that will not last forever. We need to start thinking about the desktop
> > today. We need to stop the official discouragement of d
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 03:14 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
Johnson David wrote:
Currently Windows rules the desktop world, even for diehard Unix
shops. But
that will not last forever. We need to start thinking about the
desktop
today. We need to s
Robert Marella wrote:
MacOS X is the "Desktop BSD". It is available today, and it works
better than anything else at being a "desktop".
Does it work on my intel hardware?
And your point is..?
mkb.
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Robert Marella writes:
> As far as the codebase question, he was not the one to bring it up. If
> I can read between his lines, I understand that when you go in front
> of the suits you can't tell them RTFM. You have to explain why FreeBSD
> is head and shoulders above the leader of the pack.
Yes
Robert Marella writes:
> Does it work on my intel hardware?
Two basic responses, one right, one wrong:
Wrong: "Of course it does, you idiot! Don't you know anything about
hardware?"
Right: "FreeBSD easily supports the full range of Intel microprocessors
and virtually all Intel motherboards and
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Not in public it doesn't. That is irrelevant to the discussion.
> FreeBSD does not work on my PPC HW either.
Score: 12 out of 100. The meeting is over, and a security guard will
show you the door.
Try again.
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Matthias Buelow writes:
> And your point is..?
I can see that FreeBSD marketing has a long way to go.
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On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 04:34 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
> Robert Marella wrote:
>
> >>MacOS X is the "Desktop BSD". It is available today, and it works
> >>better than anything else at being a "desktop".
> > Does it work on my intel hardware?
>
> And your point is..?
>
> mkb.
Market share
Hello guys!
I have a few machines behind my FreeBSD box. The box connects
to ISP via ppp (PPPoE protocol). It's all working very nicely,
but the ISP is a pain - it disconnects every 24 hours. I can
reconnect in just a moment - so the diconnect is usually less
than a second long, but many applicatio
In the last episode (Feb 12), Andrew P. said:
> I have a few machines behind my FreeBSD box. The box connects to ISP
> via ppp (PPPoE protocol). It's all working very nicely, but the ISP
> is a pain - it disconnects every 24 hours. I can reconnect in just a
> moment - so the diconnect is usually le
Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Feb 12), Andrew P. said:
I have a few machines behind my FreeBSD box. The box connects to ISP
via ppp (PPPoE protocol). It's all working very nicely, but the ISP
is a pain - it disconnects every 24 hours. I can reconnect in just a
moment - so the diconnect is
Ok, after two days with little sleep I am now going to ask for some
help. Here are my problems to ponder and I will give my sys info and
configs after.
1) I want to connect to my wireless router (A) from one computer (B) and
connect through it a wired network (C) to access the internet. Is this
Good day, I am a Newbie to Freebsd and was just reading your reply
"Re. Instead of freebsd.com, why not..." and you made the comment;
"Linux is inferior to FreeBSD, and yet it is taken more seriously
because of the atmosphere around it, despite its technical inferiority"
Could you please ei
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Robert Marella writes:
As far as the codebase question, he was not the one to bring it up. If
I can read between his lines, I understand that when you go in front
of the suits you can't tell them RTFM. You have to explain why FreeBSD
is head and
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:49 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Not in public it doesn't. That is irrelevant to the discussion.
FreeBSD does not work on my PPC HW either.
Score: 12 out of 100. The meeting is over, and a security guard will
show you the door.
Try again.
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