Re: Port 3306 <-- Solved!! Thanks

2003-03-08 Thread keith
Yeah fair comment Ricardo Thanks > Hi Keith, > > Since you are on the matter, I would also recommend using your firewall > to stop unwanted requests to that port. For example, try instead of > any, allowing your webserver (in case of webdriven websites) and only > servers that need to have acc

Re: leafnode

2003-03-08 Thread Nicholas Wieland
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:55:23PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Post your inetd.conf. nntp stream tcp nowait usenet /usr/libexec/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/leafnode Thank you Nicholas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of t

Re: Problem to mount an ext3 partition

2003-03-08 Thread Mica Telodico
--- Fernando Gleiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Mica Telodico wrote: > > > --- Simon Barner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > > > > > I've controlled yet , the partition is the right > > partition. I've controlled in /stand/sysinstall in > the > > partiotion utilit

slice extends beyond end of disk error on install

2003-03-08 Thread W. J. Williams
I keep getting the following error when trying to install FreeBSD 4.7 ad0: 9773MB [19857/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA 33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c md0s4: slice extends beyond end of disk: truncating from 5 to 8640 sectors . after this message the system just hangs. I have low

undefined reference to 'pthread_detach'

2003-03-08 Thread Aaron Walker
I was writing a little test threads program, and when I try to compile I get this: $gcc -o mttest mttest.c -lpthread /tmp/cco18ppz.o: In function `thread_func': /tmp/cco18ppz.o(.text+0xd2): undefined reference to `pthread_detach' I don't understand why I am getting this since pthread.h is include

Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Miroslaw J. Wiechowski
Hi, After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does not work. The system installation program does not give me any working configuration. The best I could get was some u

Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread akruijff
Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > scott mcclellan wrote: > > Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed > or > > slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on > the > > FreeBSD site or handbook. > > Unfortunately, I think this is one of

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread akruijff
Citeren "Miroslaw J. Wiechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does > not work. > > Regards > mjw I don't n

Want to be a member of Free BSD

2003-03-08 Thread Md. Mohebullah
Dear Sir, I want to be a member of your free BSD user group. Please suggest me how come I become a member. Your nice co-operation will highly appreciated. Thanks & regards. Md. Mohebullah _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusS

Re: Want to be a member of Free BSD

2003-03-08 Thread Prashant Sarma
Visit the following webpage. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/x29.html ~Prashant On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Md. Mohebullah wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I want to be a member of your free BSD user group. Please suggest me how > come I become a member. > > Your nice co-op

Re: Sendmail config file

2003-03-08 Thread Peter Wu
IAccounts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This same question was asked yesterday (I think), but I accidently deleted > the thread, and it hasnt hit the archives yet. > > I have upgraded from 4.3 to 4.8, and a telnet to sendmail states > 8.12.8/8.11.3. > > Someone had responded on how to upgrade just

Re: Can't open /dev/fd0.720: Permission denied

2003-03-08 Thread robert t g tan
ls -l /dev/fd0.720 crw-r- 2 root operator9, 7 Feb 12 14:30 /dev/fd0.720 uname -r 4.7-RELEASE-p4 User is root. On 07/03/03 22:42 +, Lee Harr wrote: > >Im having problems accessing my floppy. > >E.g. when using mtools Im getting the following > >message: > > > > Can't open /

Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: scott mcclellan wrote: Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the FreeBSD site or handbook. Unfortunately, I think this is one of

Dell Latitude C600 and Sound Recording - help!

2003-03-08 Thread s . phillips
A question for the gurus, or anyone with an idea on how to fix this... :) I have just installed FreeBSD 4.8-RC1 (ISO from ftp.au.freebsd.org) on my Dell Latitude C600 laptop a few days ago. Everything works perfectly except sound recording (playback is fine). The sound hardware in the laptop is

Re: DHCP Server "learning" name servers since server itself isdhcp'd??

2003-03-08 Thread IAccounts
> > Alternatively is there a way to dynamically tell BIND to get it's > > forwarders list from /etc/resolv.conf? > > This could be done pretty much the same way. I thought I'd done it on > my system, but as I look at named.conf, I don't seem to have ever > finished the shell script to auto-generat

Re: FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-08 Thread IAccounts
> What did I miss? Does one have to become an "expert" to work with this OS? All I have to say is that people tell me that practice makes perfect (eventually, with help from these lists of course ;o) No one can know everything, so it's the frustration and anguish that makes success much more enj

Re: leafnode

2003-03-08 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-03-08T03:48:44Z, Nicholas Wieland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've modified inetd.conf as explained in INSTALL and configured the > server, inetd is running... Did you restart inetd after changing inetd.conf? I usually `killall -HUP inetd' to make it reload. Have you looked in /etc/ho

Re: leafnode

2003-03-08 Thread Scott A. Moberly
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:55:23PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >> Post your inetd.conf. > > nntp stream tcp nowait usenet news (Unless you have added usenet user) > /usr/libexec/tcpd Not necessary tcp wrappers are built in > /usr/local/sbin

4 Disk Pack

2003-03-08 Thread Roger Rutz
I received the 4 disk pack of FreeBSD. I used the #1 CD to install The Unix System. However, I do not know how to install the additional applications from the remaininf 3 CD's. Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in

Error When Upgrading cvsup-without-gui 16.1f

2003-03-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I attempted to use portupgrade to replace cvsup-without-gui 16.1f with 16.1g but got the following error: ===> cvsup-without-gui-16.1g depends on file: /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/tcp/FreeBSD4/libm3tcp.a - found ===> Building for cvsup-without-gui-16.1g mkdir FreeBSD4 --- building in FreeBSD4 --- ===

bash not automatically interactive

2003-03-08 Thread Bas Essers
hi i just installed bash2 from the ports collection and used "chsh" to make it my shell. and now when i log in i get bash but it doesn't run in interactive mode, only when i start another one with "bash -i", and that's also the only way to get bash to read ~/.bashrc. does anyone know what the probl

Re: FreeBSD (4.5-to-4.7) Binary Upgrade Mishap

2003-03-08 Thread Bob Perry
> > What did I miss? Does one have to become an "expert" to work with this OS? > > All I have to say is that people tell me that practice makes perfect > (eventually, with help from these lists of course ;o) > > No one can know everything, so it's the frustration and anguish that makes > success

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Albertus Magnus
On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > Hi, > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does > not work. > > The system installation program

Re: 4 Disk Pack

2003-03-08 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Rutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > I received the 4 disk pack of FreeBSD. I used the #1 CD to install The > Unix System. However, I do not know how to install the additional > applications from the remaininf 3 CD's. To see what's on the disks, insert one into the drive

Re: bash not automatically interactive

2003-03-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:40:20PM +0100, Bas Essers wrote: > i just installed bash2 from the ports collection and used "chsh" to make it > my shell. and now when i log in i get bash but it doesn't run in interactive > mode, only when i start another one with "bash -i", and that's also the only >

Re: mysql323-server -- can't connect remotely

2003-03-08 Thread Mark Edwards
Okay, I figured it out. It had absolutely nothing to do with user permissions. It was, amazingly, tcpwrappers that was causing the problem. I discovered a ton of log entries like the following in my Security Output email: Mar 7 00:22:11 lilbuddy inetd[968]: refused connection from 192.168.

Re: Want to be a member of Free BSD

2003-03-08 Thread taxman
On Saturday 08 March 2003 09:11 am, Prashant Sarma wrote: > Visit the following webpage. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/x29.h >tml In fact go up a level and read that entire document. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions B

Re: DHCP Server "learning" name servers since server itself is dhcp'd??

2003-03-08 Thread Mikko Työläjärvi
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, IAccounts wrote: > > > Alternatively is there a way to dynamically tell BIND to get it's > > > forwarders list from /etc/resolv.conf? Here is a shell script snippet that I use on my laptop. It gets called from make_resolv_conf() in /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks, where I make sure

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Matt Navarre
On Saturday 08 March 2003 08:52 am, Albertus Magnus wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > > of various graphic cards but I got

Re: "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition: errata and addenda

2003-03-08 Thread W. D.
Hi Greg, I try these links: ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1 ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt ftp://ftp.lem

Syslog problem

2003-03-08 Thread Chuck Rock
For the last few versions of FreeBSD, I have not been able to get my syslog to log my dial-up pool from my Cisco router. I changed the syslog startup flags in rc.conf. I'm running it now as /usr/sbin/syslogd -a 207.206.185.1/27 -a 209.83.132.1/27 The router is at .1 and configured to send it's l

RE: Syslog problem

2003-03-08 Thread Chuck Rock
I also ran snort and found these packets coming into my FreeBSD box... 03/08-14:11:42.239335 207.206.185.1:54139 -> 207.206.185.2:514 UDP TTL:255 TOS:0x0 ID:15618 IpLen:20 DgmLen:131 Len: 111 3C 31 38 37 3E 36 30 35 34 38 38 3A 20 4D 61 72 <187>605488: Mar 20 20 38 20 31 34 3A 31 31 3A 34 32 2E 3

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Miroslaw J. Wiechowski
Message from Matt Navarre [19:44 2003-03-08]: >> Section "Device" [...] >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "i810" >> VendorName "Intel" >> BoardName "i810" >> BusID "PCI:0:1:0" >> #Option "NoDDC" "True" >> #Option "NoInt10" "True" >> VideoRam

Re: core dump

2003-03-08 Thread Thomas Haug
you're right there tim, it is changing the place in the compile that it bombs at each time, doing the same buildworld, with the same source ! here some examples from NOW: PS: i did a memtest "memtest 520m" (let it run for ~30min) with NO errors AND i did a cpuburn "burnP6" test for about ~15min

FreeBSD + parallel port = virtual "printer"?

2003-03-08 Thread Nick Sayer
Does anyone have any experience trying to get the FreeBSD parallel port driver to emulate a printer? I have a device that outputs postscript print jobs to a printer, and I'd like to capture those jobs with a nearby FreeBSD machine and pass them into lpr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Matt Navarre
On Saturday 08 March 2003 12:45 pm, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > Message from Matt Navarre [19:44 2003-03-08]: > >> Section "Device" > > [...] > > >>Identifier "Card0" > >>Driver "i810" > >>VendorName "Intel" > >>BoardName "i810" > >>BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > >> # O

Re: 4 Disk Pack

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Moran
Roger Rutz wrote: I received the 4 disk pack of FreeBSD. I used the #1 CD to install The Unix System. However, I do not know how to install the additional applications from the remaininf 3 CD's. There are three main methods of installing additional software under FreeBSD. First is "distributions".

Re: leafnode

2003-03-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:18:56AM +, Nicholas Wieland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:55:23PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > Post your inetd.conf. > > nntp stream tcp nowait usenet /usr/libexec/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/leafnode And does the usenet user exist? The default configu

Is Adaptec 2120S supported?

2003-03-08 Thread Christian Laursen
I've been trying to figure out whether the Adaptec 2120S raid controller is supported by FreeBSD. Adaptec do not list FreeBSD as a supported platform for the 2120S like they do for e.g. 2110S. Is it supported, and if it is, by which driver? Thanks in advance? -- Best regards Christian Laur

Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 08 March 2003 07:01 am, Bill Moran wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>scott mcclellan wrote: > >>>Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed > >>> or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice > >>> anythin

Re: Can't open /dev/fd0.720: Permission denied

2003-03-08 Thread Lee Harr
>Im having problems accessing my floppy. >E.g. when using mtools Im getting the following >message: > > Can't open /dev/fd0.720: Permission denied > Cannot initialize 'A:' ls -l /dev/fd0.720 crw-r- 2 root operator9, 7 Feb 12 14:30 /dev/fd0.720 uname -r 4.7-RELEASE-p4 User i

RE: Mirroring/load-balance two servers

2003-03-08 Thread Jonas Fornander
> > The only problem with using DNS round robin like this, is > that, in this scenario when 1 server is down, on average 1 in > 3 requests to the web server will fail. But as previous > posters have commented DNS should respond with the same 3 > addresses, but it will rotate the order each tim

Re: 3 IDE devices on Promise card + FreeBSD == not possible?

2003-03-08 Thread Len Conrad
I've been posting about this since the beginning on the year. A few times on freebsd-questions, once on freebsd-hackers, and submitted a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48165). Are you sure that configuring the TX2 as "RAID 0" array is what you want to do, vs "SPAN" (aka JBOD)? I

ata disk spindown timeout

2003-03-08 Thread Seunghun Lee
I'd like to suspend my ata disk. I dug up this old patch in freebsd-mobile and applied to 5.0-RELEASE-p4 and put hw.ata.suspend=1800 in my loader.conf I attach the patch. Two things: 1800 sec == 30 minutes. it suspends waaay before it's been 30 minutes. The same thing happens with 18000 also. I'

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Miroslaw J. Wiechowski
It seems that the X-Windows configuration problem is caused not only by the Intel i810 chip, but also by the monitor, Targa Multiscan TM 1480, which is rather old and probably the system cannot ask it for necessary information. I could achieve 640x480 display by putting "Modeline" in the monitor s

Re: dd *very* slow. Now 75x faster thanks to Kirk's suggestion!

2003-03-08 Thread S W
..snip.. > I dropped that idea, but I'd read a post somewhere about dd, I tried... > > dd if=/dev/ad2 of=/dev/da0 > > ...now the IDE activity LED has been on solid for about 4hours dd's performance is highly depending on the size of its buffers, which are abysmally small (512 bytes) by default:

ata disk spindown timeout

2003-03-08 Thread Seunghun Lee
*** ata-disk.c.orig Tue Dec 17 12:46:56 2002 --- ata-disk.c Sat Mar 8 14:50:01 2003 *** *** 87,95 --- 87,97 static int ata_dma = 1; static int ata_wc = 1; static int ata_tags = 0; + static int ata_suspend = 0; TUNABLE_INT("hw.ata.ata_dma", &ata_dma); TUNABLE_I

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Miroslaw J. Wiechowski
Just one more observation... Somehow the old Windows 3.11 worked very well with my monitor in all avaliable resolutions 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768. I didn't have to know anything about timings, clocks, vertical synchronisations, modelines etc. Regards mjw To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EM

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread Matt Navarre
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:48 pm, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > It seems that the X-Windows configuration problem is caused > not only by the Intel i810 chip, but also by the monitor, > Targa Multiscan TM 1480, which is rather old and probably the > system cannot ask it for necessary informatio

libstdc++.so.5 and linux compat

2003-03-08 Thread Remington L.
I have a linux binary I wish to run on my FreeBSD 4.7 box. It has linux_base 7.1 installed. When I try to run the linux binary it says libstdc++.so.5 not found, but it is installed in the linux base. My question is how do I get it to see the so.5 file? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Syslog problem

2003-03-08 Thread Michael K. Smith
Hello Chuck: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Chuck Rock wrote: > For the last few versions of FreeBSD, I have not been able to get my syslog > to log my dial-up pool from my Cisco router. > > I changed the syslog startup flags in rc.conf. > > I'm running it now as /usr/sbin/syslogd -a 207.206.185.1/27 -a > 2

Re: still can't resolve these system reboots... help please

2003-03-08 Thread Tuc
> > So the next question is how do I approach Dell to replace the > > motherboard/cpu/memory? If I show them FreeBSD they'll laugh. > > Can you find an intensive program to run under Windows that will reproduce > it? > Hell ... just install ActivePerl and write a perl script that does lots > a

4.7-STABLE, 4.8-RC! don't recognize 2nd SCSI disk

2003-03-08 Thread joe moore
I have a Compaq Prosignia 200 with 4.3 GB and 9.1 GB SCSI drives on a Compaq SCSI controller sym0 (875). 4.7-RELEASE installs and runs fine. I cvsup'd to stable (as of a few days ago) and now the second disk (da1) is no longer recognized so /usr won't mount. If I boot from a 4.8-RC1 install CD the

Re: Syslog problem

2003-03-08 Thread Chuck Rock
Accordifn to the man page, that just specifies what port to listen on. By default it's 514 syslog port. I'll try it anyway. I'm up for anything at this point ;-) Chuck On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael K. Smith wrote: > Hello Chuck: > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Chuck Rock wrote: > > > For the last few ver

Re: Syslog problem

2003-03-08 Thread Chuck Rock
Well, that seemed to work. I don't know why, but it did. Thank you! Chuck On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael K. Smith wrote: > Hello Chuck: > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Chuck Rock wrote: > > > For the last few versions of FreeBSD, I have not been able to get my syslog > > to log my dial-up pool from my Cis

Epson Photo Stylus 1270 setup...

2003-03-08 Thread Alex(ander Sendzimir)
Could someone walk me through the process of getting this printer up and running under fbsd? It's connected via USB. I know the connection is good because the printer generates output. The output is garbage, however. I don't know if I have printcap entry for this printer correct. I'm installed gimp

python interpreter in vim6 port

2003-03-08 Thread Matt Navarre
hello, Does anyone know how to get python (and perl for that matter) support compiled into the vim port? The Makefile has a line that says WITH_PYTHON=yes but looking at the output of configure the --enable-pythoninterp argument is not getting passed to configure. Is there some magic incanta

Re: DHCP Server "learning" name servers since server itself is dhcp'd??

2003-03-08 Thread David Kelly
On Saturday 08 March 2003 12:32 pm, Mikko Työläjärvi wrote: > > It is more elegant in perl, but dhclient-enter-hooks is a > shellscript, so it felt easier to just add it there. /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks needs to be created in any case if you wish to use named else it will write an /etc/resolv.con

Re: libstdc++.so.5 and linux compat

2003-03-08 Thread Rob
Try ln -s libstdc++.so libstdc++so.5 On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:45:35PM -0800, Remington L. wrote: > I have a linux binary I wish to run on my FreeBSD 4.7 box. It has > linux_base 7.1 installed. When I try to run the linux binary it says > libstdc++.so.5 not found, but it is installed in the linux

Re: Intel i810e graphic

2003-03-08 Thread YOU
Windows 3.11. Are you using that now? No probably not. Does 9X, 2000, or any other new M$ breed work? That would be interesting. Sometimes old hardware is sure nice to have around as a spare, but at $200.00 for a decent monitor that includes all horiz/vert timings I'd say maybe it's time to move

(send)mailing from jail-host to jail

2003-03-08 Thread Josh Brooks
system A is a normal freeBSD system with two IP addresses. system B is a jail on system A, using the second IP. When I send mail from A to B, i get an error saying that the MX record points back to myself. Presumably this is because sendmail running on jail-host takes account of both ips when i

Not understanding VINUM docs

2003-03-08 Thread Jorge Mario G.
Hi I have FreeBSD installed in a 2G HD (swap, /, /var, /usr) Also I have 3 Hard Drives (/misc1 /misc2 /misc3) now I would like to build a concadenated volume with those 3 harddrives to make it like a 1 single drive my question is do I need a basic FreeBSD installed on those hard dirves for that

screen power saving question

2003-03-08 Thread David Banning
I am having a problem where my monitor shuts down into power saving mode, and does not always come back up when I hit the keyboard or move the mouse. I am running FreeBSD 4.7 with XFree86 4.3 and xfce window manager. My question is; What gives the the command to the monitor to go into power savin

Sending 'security run output' to another email address

2003-03-08 Thread WillyB
Hi folks.. I've got FreeBSD 4.7 running as my router to the net from local systems. I am wanting the output from 'security run output' to be sent to my isp email address. The problem is that it's sending the mail to me but bouncing because it's sending from FBSD.npgcable.com which fails the dn

kernel configuration

2003-03-08 Thread charles pelletier
Okay, just to make sure this is correct (my first use of the newer more current kernel config).. The only steps involved are those listed in the handbook: Change to the /usr/src directory. # cd /usr/src Compile the kernel. # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL Install the new kernel. #

Re: kernel configuration

2003-03-08 Thread P. U. Kruppa
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, charles pelletier wrote: > Okay, just to make sure this is correct (my first use of the newer more > current kernel config).. > > The only steps involved are those listed in the handbook: > Change to the /usr/src directory. > # cd /usr/src > Compile the kernel. > # make