Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Huff
Michael P. Soulier writes: > >Might as well paint "PLEASE KICK ME!" and an arrow pointing > > down on your back > > I'm used to binary-package distributions that seem to try a lot > harder to not break. I suppose that ports is evolving, and it > used to be worse, so I shouldn't com

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-04-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Robert Huff said: > > But I bet I'm not the only one who, once upon a time, happened to > > try "portupgrade -arR" or equivalent after forgetting to read > > UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I originally thought. > > Might as well paint "PLEASE KICK ME!" and an arro

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-30 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:19:47 -0500 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but with training my computer is teaching me what > is right and what is not. I think. ... and I thought that's why I had stopped using Windows...hmmm ;) _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:41:06 -0400 Gerard Seibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:40:05 +0100 > RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Portmanager is really no better, the dependencies recorded in the > > package database are also recursive. The big problem with gettext > > was t

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:41:06 -0400 Gerard Seibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, I have never had a problem using 'portmanager' > provided I used the '-p -f' flags. OPPS, should have been '-p -u' flags. -- Gerard signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:40:05 +0100 RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Portmanager is really no better, the dependencies recorded in the > package database are also recursive. The big problem with gettext > was that a lot of port failed to build afterwards, leaving them with a > missing library. I ha

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:15:53 -0400 Gerard Seibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:36:59 -0400 > "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 28/03/07 RW said: > > > > > The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade > > > offers. With portupgra

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:36:59 -0400 "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/03/07 RW said: > > > The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade > > offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not > > essential, with portmaster, it's essential that

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Robert Huff
Kevin Kinsey writes: > But I bet I'm not the only one who, once upon a time, happened to > try "portupgrade -arR" or equivalent after forgetting to read > UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I originally thought. Might as well paint "PLEASE KICK ME!" and an arrow pointing down

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said: Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on "The Art of Pkgdb -F" (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been proposed, cr

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28/03/07, Joel Hatton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, "Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > >Now, I've been upgrading ports via > >portupgrade -R > >as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require >those supplied, and not those that it

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Joel Hatton
Hi, On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, "Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > >Now, I've been upgrading ports via > >portupgrade -R > >as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require >those supplied, and not those that it requires, would that cause it? Be careful with your

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Gerard Seibert said: > You can run: > > portmanager -u -p -l > > That will rebuild all broken and or missing dependencies for all of > your ports. How does it know what ports are installed? Originally, I thought that the pkgdb was that source of information, so if it was gone,

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 RW said: > The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade > offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not > essential, with portmaster, it's essential that the -r option is used, > If it's not, or the upgrade fails to complete, you can end-up with no

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said: > Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on "The Art of > Pkgdb -F" (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly > six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been > proposed, created, and relea

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:19:47 -0500 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously, as I am not about to batter you > about the neck and head with the beam projecting > from my eye (hold still, you've got a . . .), > I can only suggest a decent cringe&pray > manouver (as I execute from

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey
logize, but I haven't found them there. Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on "The Art of Pkgdb -F" (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been proposed, created, and released to

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php > > while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like > > Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 > (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Ge

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27/03/07, Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php > > while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like > > Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SAS

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Jeffrey Goldberg said: >> On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/ p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] > In this case t

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Jeffrey Goldberg said: > On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: > >> Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 > >> (security/ p5-GSSAPI): > >> p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] > > In this case the port p5-Authen-SASL

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/ p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] Well this one is pretty obvious. Look at what the stale dependency is, and what it's suggesting? :)

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Josh Carroll
Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] Well this one is pretty obvious. Look at what the stale dependency is, and what it's suggesting? :) Sometimes it can be less clear, though. You just hav

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php > > while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like > > Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI): > p5-Ge

the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I'm looking at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -> p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] I must ask. How the hell am I supposed