RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAve > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:29 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > Don't wonder if qmail has flaws,

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-07 Thread Andrey Shuvikov
Thanks a lot for all your suggestions! I will probably still start from exim but at least I know now that the choice is not that critical, especially for a small home server. Thanks again, Andrey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://list

Re: mail server setup questions - OT answer

2007-09-07 Thread Bill Vermillion
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 20:40 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclaimed "Las Cucarachas entran, Pero no pueden salir", and then rambled on saying with: > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:28:59 -0400 > From: DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > To: f

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:04 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Nikola Lecic; Russell E. Meek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > >

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:21 PM > To: Andrey Shuvikov > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > On Sep

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread DAve
Bill Vermillion wrote: In the last exciting episode of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:27 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] as heard to say: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions To: "

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Bill Vermillion
In the last exciting episode of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:27 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] as heard to say: > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 > From: Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > To: "Bob Johnson&qu

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/5/07, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 > > "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. [...] > > > > I jus

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
t; Cc: Eray Aslan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt > > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > > I'm very disappointed that more official people on this list didn't say > > something like "Ted, please respect our users from all countries, &

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 > "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I > > suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What > > patc

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:12 PM > To: Andrey Shuvikov > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > >

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:13 AM > To: Jerry McAllister > Cc: Eray Aslan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: mail server setu

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Nikola Lecic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:20 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > >

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I > suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What > patches do I need to make this do something useful?" or "What > third-party tool d

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Mittwoch 05 September 2007 21:14:17 schrieb Predrag Punosevac: > We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I > am just a user not a sysadmin). Me, personally, I can only swear by Postfix. I've set up numerous Postfix mail servers over the last two years, and I've

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 04:52:56PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello 2007/9/5, Andrey Shuvikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task?

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
> I would submit you think you do. For example, are you planning on > putting a webmail interface on the server? A lot of people do. Well > if you do and you put a scrap of CGI on there that has a hole in it > a spammer can come along and cause that to relay mail from incoming > http right into

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task?

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eric Crist
On Sep 5, 2007, at 2:05 PMSep 5, 2007, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task?

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eric
Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Exim is a capable mailer as is postfi

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:21:56PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > >going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > >named exim. Is it a matter of personal prefere

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey

[Fwd: Re: mail server setup questions]

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
--- Begin Message --- Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Andrey Shuvikov
Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey ___ f

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come on folks. You'll never get anywhere in a flame war with Ted. > He changes the ground under you any time it is convenient. Jerry, I appreciate your good will, but he doesn't "change ground". And this is not a "fl

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:51:18AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eray Aslan > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@free

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread N.J. Thomas
* Jim Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-04 18:03:20 -0400]: > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I would second the recommendation for Postfix -- and Dovecot for POP. > Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good w

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, > Zbigniew, please don't teach me lessons in politeness. Ted posted two > very offensive mails and everyone has a right to publicly reply to > publicly posted offence. If that's problem for you, then ignore this > thread. Be careful when using word "rubbish". My apologies. I shoudn't have

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:55 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Nikola Lecic; Russell E. Meek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > &

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:44:15 +0200 "Zbigniew Szalbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by >

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eray Aslan > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > Good advice. I am sure you could ha

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag > Punosevac > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > On 05.09.2

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi, 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > > to the use of metaph

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian > propagandists warpe

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:14:37AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> > >I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not > >your hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. But then > >on the second thought maybe you are trying to teach us how to > >configure t

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 12:34:45 Jim Stapleton wrote: > Thank all of you for your suggestions, I'll look at them. This is a > mail server for me and maybe a few friends. I plan on running incoming > SMTP, maybe at some point outgoing (requiring authentication/SSL, > definetly no relay), no

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Predrag Punosevac wrote: On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped th

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
> Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that > gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver > of any kind. Knowledgeable and competant are two different things. If I were not competant, I would not bother attempting to get that knowledge that I lack. I don't k

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
> > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > Kind

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eray Aslan
On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists > warped the metaphor beyond the brea

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:41 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:03:20 -0400 "Jim Stapleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. Jim, - incoming email + delivery : postfix . Really well documented. Haven't found a feature not implemented. As

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device - > they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, > and are not qualified at all to use it. [...] Please save us from these words of wis

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russell E. Meek > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:20 PM > To: Jim Stapleton > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > >

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Russell E. Meek
Quoting Jim Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good we

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Eric Crist
On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:03 PMSep 4, 2007, Jim Stapleton wrote: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you

mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Stapleton
I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring it as it would be done