Mario Lobo wrote:
On Saturday 12 December 2009 22:44:54 Rolf G Nielsen wrote:
Mario Lobo wrote:
On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote:
Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the
makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm
eagerly
On Saturday 12 December 2009 22:44:54 Rolf G Nielsen wrote:
> Mario Lobo wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote:
> >> Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the
> >> makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm
> >> eagerly wa
Mario Lobo wrote:
On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote:
Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the
makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm
eagerly waiting for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum
post (I don't have
On Saturday 12 December 2009 21:23:00 Rolf Nielsen wrote:
> Where's that? The Nvidia site says nothing about it yet, and the
> makefile for x11/nvidia-driver still says ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=i386. I'm
> eagerly waiting for it, but I can't find anything other than a forum
> post (I don't have the address h
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142120
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Rolf Nielsen
wrote:
> Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record?
>>
>>
>> I found this for loose reference.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditin
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record?
I found this for loose reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing
I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a
better track record security wise
I tend to use FreeBSD
>
> Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record?
I found this for loose reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing
I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a
better track record security wise
I tend to use FreeBSD for my desktop needs b
; (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
: >
: >
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
:
: Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he
: realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security p
> 2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman :
> >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +
> >> From: Matthew Seaman
> >> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
> >>
> >> Polytropon wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
wrote:
> >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears
On Fri 11 Dec 2009 at 20:59:57 PST Robert Huff wrote:
Ulf Zimmermann writes:
Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still
MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based
inventory/quote/sales app.
Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar.
And why no
2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman :
>> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +
>> From: Matthew Seaman
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
>>
>> Polytropon wrote:
>> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
>> > wrote:
>> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> Well, yes, except this assumes one has access to the sysadmin...
Physical access.
It's hard to exploit a sysadmin by social engineering
because he hardly has any friends. :-)
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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great
> evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of
> uid/pwd.
/usr/ports/security/sshguard-*
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Ulf Zimmermann writes:
> Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still
> MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based
> inventory/quote/sales app.
Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar.
Robert Huff
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 03:23:56PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +
> > From: Matthew Seaman
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
> >
> > Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
> > > wrote:
> > >> I have tried
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +
> From: Matthew Seaman
> Sender: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
>
> Polytropon wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
> > wrote:
> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
> >> #1 track record in
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:53, J Sisson wrote:
> 2009/12/11 Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
>
>> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes
>> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that
>> simple.
>>
>
> http://xkcd.com/538/
>
> indeed.
Well, y
2009/12/11 Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes
> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that
> simple.
>
http://xkcd.com/538/
indeed.
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If memory serves me right, sometime around 10:49am, Jerry McAllister told me:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
wrote:
I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> "Svein Skogen" writes:
>> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes
>> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that
>> simple.
>
> *laugh*
>
> I thought you were more of
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:50 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>
> > Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Polytropon wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
> > wrote:
> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either...
That's true, it would be difficult to find a local privilege escalation
exploit in an operating system without the concept of limited user
accounts :)
--
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> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
From
http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3850401/FreeBSD-Shines-While-Apple-Fails.htm
> All software has bugs, but it's how people react when things go wrong that
> you can judge them. Did the Free
"Svein Skogen" writes:
> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes
> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that
> simple.
*laugh*
I thought you were more of a baseball bat kind of guy :)
DES
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> $witch writes:
>> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a
>> great evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple
>> combination of uid/pwd.
>>
>> starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hu
$witch writes:
> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a
> great evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple
> combination of uid/pwd.
>
> starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking
> for a valid username.
Starting from Dec 8? This
Paul Schmehl writes:
> >> And from I understand it's going to get worse.
> >> Apparently the IT services are drawing up
> >> plans to completely forbid use of "non-autorized"
> >> OS. I imagine fbsd will not be authorized.
> >> So I'm anticipating another battle already.
> >
> > Does this
Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
> wrote:
>> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
>> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count
>> dragonflyBSD)
>
> VMS would be #0, then? :-)
I dunno. Haven't
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:44 +0100, $witch wrote:
> starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking for a
> valid username.
For example "Administrator"... :-)
> i love the FreeBSD security while it is MOSTLY based on KNOWLEDGE of users
> than on a PERFECT code.
Securit
At 2009-12-11 11:29:44+, $witch writes:
> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great
> evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of
> uid/pwd.
# always, everywhere:
PasswordAuthentication No
Nick B
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:41:41 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht
wrote:
From my information security manager:
FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
(comparatively) poor security record. ..
Hi,
almost all of you remark how FreeBSD is more-secur
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:34:34PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
> I'm starting to wonder if the security manager really said what Anton
> claims he said, or Anton is filtering his perceptions through the anger he
> feels at being restricted in his ability to operate freely. If the latter
> is
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr."
wrote:
> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed
> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count
> dragonflyBSD)
VMS would be #0, then? :-)
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy Free
al than practical school :-)
and has a
> (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
>
>
> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
as many
ity record. Most recently, for example:
>>
>>
>> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
>
> Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he
> realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for
gt; ges...@yahoo.com
>
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> |===
> |===
> |===
> |
>
> Grandpa Charnock's Law:
> You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.
>
> [I thought it was when your kids learned to drive. Ed.]
>
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> FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
> (comparatively) poor security record.
unlike linux or windoze, rofl
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--On December 10, 2009 2:11:31 PM -0600 Kevin Wilcox
wrote:
2009/12/10 Anton Shterenlikht :
I was just stressed after being forced by him
to explain why I wanted firewall exceptions
for two ports to my FreeBSD portscluster nodes.
I explained the reasons and that was settled.
Anton, I don'
Jerry wrote:
> Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for
> me.
>
> You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of
> a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also
> forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the c
> > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
> > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
> >
> >
> > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100
>
> Julian H. Stacey replied:
> >> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to
> >> preserve my sanity.
> >
> >A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work:
> >FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner.
2009/12/10 Anton Shterenlikht :
> I was just stressed after being forced by him
> to explain why I wanted firewall exceptions
> for two ports to my FreeBSD portscluster nodes.
> I explained the reasons and that was settled.
Anton, I don't know about the UK, Great Britain or England, but in US
Uni
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100
Julian H. Stacey replied:
>> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to
>> preserve my sanity.
>
>A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work:
>FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner.
>OK, slow, but i
> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to
> preserve my sanity.
A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work:
FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner.
OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only.
These scanners often lie a
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> Perhaps I should start putting together
> some statistics to make my case more forcefully.
>
I fought the same battle at the Univ. I attended (as a student). They were
an M$ shop as well and had issues with me running OpenBSD. I stuc
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:50 +
Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had
> some support from other academics, to have
> a linux class in my Faculty. Here the
> opposition wasn't so much security, as
> "why would any undegraduate need linux",
> as if MS solutions a
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Chargen wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Anton Shterenlikht
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
>>> In response to Anton Shterenlikht :
>
>> I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had
>> some support from
n the University (I understand) and has a
(comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.ht
ml
Please pass this to your information security manager:
From one information security manager to an
www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.ht
ml
Please pass this to your information security manager:
From one information security manager to another, you're an idiot.
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As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own a
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
>> In response to Anton Shterenlikht :
> I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had
> some support from other academics, to have
> a linux class in my Faculty. Here the
> oppos
or security record. Most recently, for example:
> >
> >
> > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
>
> Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he
> realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security
Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
From my information security manager:
FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
(comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-Fr
ample:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
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> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
Yes, and?
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/2009/freebsd-security-notifications/20091206.freebsd-security-notifications
http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:16.rtld.asc
And
e.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
Wow.
Just...wow.
FreeBSD's security record, the rate at which fixes occur, the ports
system and the overall sanity of the environment is *precisely* why we
have been migrating from RHEL to FreeBSD at my University (I'm
employe
Anton Shterenlikht writes:
> From my information security manager:
>
> FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
> (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for
> example:
"comparatively", compared to what? Windows? Linux? We beat them
>>
>>
>> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
>
> Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot?
He doesn't really have to _try_, does he?
I have always thought that an infosec person should *know* what they
tem/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
Some say... world flat... some say roundish. There are lots of
opinions to choose from. It would be nice to see an actual properly
designed study quoted... or even some raw data referenced. and I am
not talking about something vendor sponsored that exami
Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>From my information security manager:
>
> FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
> (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
>
>
> http://www.h-online.com/securi
e.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he
realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all
of 2009? Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month.
If he can find something (other than
>From my information security manager:
FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a
(comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html
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