Peter wrote:
> --- James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:34:57 -0800
> > > From: Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebs
--- James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:34:57 -0800
> > From: Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:34:57 -0800
> From: Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED
On Saturday 04 March 2006 19:20, Peter wrote:
> --- Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would like to know the difference between running:
> >
> > portupgrade -arR
> >
> > and
> >
> > portmanager -u
> >
> > Just curious is all, thanks.
>
> I have found portmanager to be more intelligent.
--- Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know the difference between running:
>
> portupgrade -arR
>
> and
>
> portmanager -u
>
> Just curious is all, thanks.
I have found portmanager to be more intelligent. When
you run it it takes a look at all installed ports and
then
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote:
Francisco Reyes wrote:
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree
Interesting. Thanks! I wonder how that compares to portmanager.
I have never used port manager, but pkg_tree only lets you see a tree of
the ports. It doesn't help you manage them. I don't know if port mana
Alex de Kruijff wrote:
>
> You told your system to install portmanager and the ports that
> it needs, but also all the ports that are based on it. Please
> check 'man portupgrade' about the options.
>
Good point, That is a man page I hadn't thought to review.
Thank you!
Jay
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Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks for the heads up on 'make search', even if I can't find a complete
>>description of the command. I find that it is referenced in the manual,
>>however.
>
>
> Also check out the port
> /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree
>
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 06:20:00PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> Updating a computer, pkg_info reported I only had two packages,
> cvsup-without-gui-16.1h and perl-5.8.5, both of which were out
> of date as reported by pkg_version.
>
> I tried to install portmanager, but it was not able to get th
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote:
Alec Berryman wrote:
Thanks for the heads up on 'make search', even if I can't find a complete
description of the command. I find that it is referenced in the manual,
however.
Also check out the port
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree
It's very usefull to see depen
Randy, Mike:
Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't considered a dependency
that goes away after the dependent port is built. Now it
makes perfect sense.
Jay
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RW wrote:
> make seach is documented in man ports
It sure is! THANK YOU!
Jay
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On Monday 28 March 2005 05:50 am, Randy Pratt wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:49:11 -0800
>
> Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > > It would be nice if the ports make options were better
> > > documented, but
> > >
> > > you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.p
On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:49 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented,
> > but
> >
> > you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information
> > on the various options.
> >
> > here is an example:
> >
>
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:49:11 -0800
Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
>
> > It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but
> > you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information
> > on the various options.
> >
> > here is
On Monday 28 March 2005 06:41, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> stheg olloydson wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements.
> > cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake,
> > gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot
> > bone's
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but
> you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information
> on the various options.
>
> here is an example:
>
> # all-depends-list
> # - Show all directories w
it was said:
>But how does it work (/usr/ports/Makefile doesn't have a
>SEARCH statement) and is it documented somewhere, like in a MAN
>page?
>
>The handbook, ΒΆ4.3, mentions 'make search' but doesn't explain
>how it works.
>
Hello,
It uses /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. I doubt the options in
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:51:28 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:41 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > stheg olloydson wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements.
> > > cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 d
On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:41 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> stheg olloydson wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements.
> > cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake,
> > gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot
> > bon
stheg olloydson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements.
> cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake,
> gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot
> bone's connected to the toe bone :).
>
> hth,
>
> stheg
>
stheg
it was said:
>>If you updated your soirces/ports "cvsup" then portupgrade did
>>what you asked it to do. It Updated all outdated
packages/ports
>>and there dependencies.
>
>I'm convinced that you are right. However, why don't I show the
>other dependencies?
Hello,
They are recursive dependenci
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:27:17 -0800, Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Abu Khaled wrote:
>
> > ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool are the build dependencies for
> > cvsup-without-gui.
> >
> > # cd /usr/ports
> > # make search name="cvsup-without-gui"
> >
>
> Abu, I don't get that resul
Abu Khaled wrote:
> ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool are the build dependencies for
> cvsup-without-gui.
>
> # cd /usr/ports
> # make search name="cvsup-without-gui"
>
Abu, I don't get that result. I only show ezm3-1.2.
# cd /usr/ports
# make search name="cvsup-without-gui"
Port: c
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:08:56 -0800, Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alec Berryman wrote:
>
> > Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800:
> >
> >
> >>Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3,
> >>gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If
> >
Alec Berryman wrote:
> Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800:
>
>
>>Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3,
>>gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If
>>these all required to make portupgrade or perl work, where is that
>>reference?
>
>
Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800:
> Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3,
> gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If
> these all required to make portupgrade or perl work, where is that
> reference?
They are required to build and ru
On Saturday 01 January 2005 04:30 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
> On 28 Dec Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable
> > future that is where all the focus will be, only on correctly
> > updating ports.
>
> Am I to understand correctly that portmana
On 28 Dec Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable
> future that is where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating
> ports.
Am I to understand correctly that portmanager _always_ updates ALL the
old ports? A 'pormanager -u sylpheed' is n
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 10:03 am, you wrote:
> Does portmanager handle packages? If not any plans to do so? I would
> be happy to help with testing.
portmanager only handles packages in that it builds back up packages of
each port it updates, these packages are correctly build for your
speci
Does portmanager handle packages? If not any plans to do so? I would be happy
to help with testing.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > > Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running
> > > something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as
> >
On Saturday 25 December 2004 04:53 am, Peter Schuller wrote:
> > Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it.
> > The only problem that might occur is between the
> > deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a
> > minute, when this happens I just wait
> Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The
> only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps
> I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I
> just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue.
> Here is a recap
On Friday 24 December 2004 03:52 pm, Peter Schuller wrote:
> > That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste
> > of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and
> > sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is
> > always the right thing to do. One
> That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste
> of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes
> it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right
> thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never
> had to run th
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:54 am, RW wrote:
> On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > > Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:02:30 -0800, Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RW wrote:
>
> > On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> >
> >>On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> >>
> >>>Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> >>>
> On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:0
RW wrote:
> On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
>
>>On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
>>
>>>Michael C. Shultz wrote:
>>>
On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a port
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.
> > >>Following
On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.
> >>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at
> >>http://www.onlamp.com/
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
>
>>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.
>>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at
>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1
>>I installed po
On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.
> Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1
> I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:01:58PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.
> Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1
> I installed portupgrade and then ran por
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