Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-18 Thread freebsduser
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-15 21:41]: >> My only regret was that I didn't listen to my inner voice that said -- Don't get an >> ATI All In Wonder Pro for watching TV. Get a Hauppauge TVIVO instead, or get a >> standard sort of sound card for sound. >I'm watching TV just fine

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-15 Thread Joshua Lokken
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-15 21:41]: > My only regret was that I didn't listen to my inner voice that said -- Don't get an > ATI All In Wonder Pro for watching TV. Get a Hauppauge TVIVO instead, or get a > standard sort of sound card for sound. I'm watching TV just fine w

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-15 Thread freebsduser
My only regret was that I didn't listen to my inner voice that said -- Don't get an ATI All In Wonder Pro for watching TV. Get a Hauppauge TVIVO instead, or get a standard sort of sound card for sound. I didn't do the research. But there's enough hardware and such to make one happy if they do t

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"Peter Leftwich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * webcam ball see for instance /usr/ports/graphics/vid > * flatbed scanner see /usr/ports/graphics/sane-frontends > * color printer see for instance /usr/ports/print/cups > * digital cameras Most of those behave as USB mass-storage devices, see

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-15 Thread DoubleF
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich probably wrote: > > Any major sacrifices I've forgotten? ":-\ > Sure (this list doesn't apply to XP only): * being able to hang the machine by just running an executable from the base system (krnl386.exe or something like that, which I

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:33:47 +0200 Radek Kozlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004.04.14 22:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 14 April, 2004, at 14:55 (-0500) > > Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > * digital cameras > >> > >>I use Sony Cybershot DSC-P92: > >>1. Plug

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Peter Leftwich wrote: I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: I'm sure you put on your flame-retardant PJ's before you posted, right? So,

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Joe Altman
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > > * flatbed scanner joe on ann

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-04-15T01:49:20Z, Brian Clapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I mount the file system read-only, courtesy of my entry in /etc/fstab. It > shouldn't require sync'ing. I understand. I was thinking of USB drives in general, not your setup in particular. -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Descr

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Brian Clapper
On 14 April, 2004, at 16:24 (-0500) Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 2004-04-14T20:33:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Even better, have usbd do it for you. Add this line to /etc/usbd.conf: > > While we're on the subject, that's *not* a recommended way of unmounting USB > memory s

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Brian Clapper
On 14 April, 2004, at 17:06 (-0500) Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 14 April 2004 04:33 pm, Radek Kozlowski wrote: > > > Just out of curiosity, you guys know about graphics/gphoto2 port? > > > > -Radek > > Yes. I tried it; but couldn't get it to recognize the camera. On

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 14 April 2004 at 11:36:05 -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > > * webcam ball > * flatbe

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 04:33 pm, Radek Kozlowski wrote: > On 2004.04.14 22:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 14 April, 2004, at 14:55 (-0500) > > > > Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * digital cameras > >> > >>I use Sony Cybershot DSC-P92: > >>1. Plug camera into computer usin

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Radek Kozlowski
On 2004.04.14 22:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 April, 2004, at 14:55 (-0500) Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * digital cameras I use Sony Cybershot DSC-P92: 1. Plug camera into computer using usb, check dmesg for umass device and mount memory card file system; or Even better,

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-04-14T20:33:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Even better, have usbd do it for you. Add this line to /etc/usbd.conf: While we're on the subject, that's *not* a recommended way of unmounting USB memory sticks though, correct? After all, the filesystem wouldn't be unmounted until the stick

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 03:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 14 April, 2004, at 14:55 (-0500) > > Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * digital cameras > > > > I use Sony Cybershot DSC-P92: > > 1. Plug camera into computer using usb, check dmesg for umass device and > > mount m

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread brian-freebsd-001
On 14 April, 2004, at 14:55 (-0500) Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * digital cameras > I use Sony Cybershot DSC-P92: > 1. Plug camera into computer using usb, check dmesg for umass device and mount > memory card file system; or Even better, have usbd do it for you. Add this

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > > * webcam ball > * flatbed scanner > * color printer > * digital cameras > * firewire devi

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 01:55 pm, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Apr 14), Peter Leftwich said: > > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using FreeBSD > > as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a partial > > list of sacrifices, as compared to Micro

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread MikeM
On 4/14/2004 at 11:36 AM Peter Leftwich wrote: |I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using |FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a |partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: | |* webcam ball |* flatbed scanner |* color printer

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: People that use FreeBSD as a pri

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Andrew Elmore
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > * websites that use ActiveX

Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

2004-04-14 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 14), Peter Leftwich said: > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using FreeBSD > as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a partial > list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > > * webcam ball > * flatbed scanner ports/