Re: backup strategies

2005-11-01 Thread Csaba Henk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 02:37:32PM -0500, Paul Mather wrote: > Not quite: NetBSD also features softupdates and also supports snapshots > (though I don't know how stable it is, as I've never tried it on my > NetBSD system). The snapshot interface under NetBSD is different from That's also good to

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Mather
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 13:53 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Oct 31), Paul Mather said: > > The other thing to note about FreeBSD snapshots that I don't think > > has been mentioned is that they are only supported on UFS2 > > filesystems, meaning they are unavailable under FreeBSD 4.

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 31), Paul Mather said: > The other thing to note about FreeBSD snapshots that I don't think > has been mentioned is that they are only supported on UFS2 > filesystems, meaning they are unavailable under FreeBSD 4.x and > earlier (or on older filesystems created by those old

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Mather
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:59:21 +0100, Csaba Henk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:32:02AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: > > The online manual mentions it in 16.13. Wouldn't hurt for it to be > in > > the man page as well. > > Oh, yeah, thanks. > > This makes things clear. I m

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Csaba Henk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:32:02AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: > The online manual mentions it in 16.13. Wouldn't hurt for it to be in > the man page as well. Oh, yeah, thanks. This makes things clear. I missed this somehow. > AFAIK FreeBSD 5.0+. Other *BSD as well, i believe... but someone els

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Eric Schuele
Csaba Henk wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 09:40:16AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: How do snapshots work and how do they provide the consistency necessary for a dump? [...] SoftUpdates are required on the filesystem. This sounds beautiful. I am amazed. I knew of softupdates, but they were a

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Csaba Henk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 09:40:16AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: > How do snapshots work and how do they provide the consistency necessary > for a dump? [...] > > SoftUpdates are required on the filesystem. This sounds beautiful. I am amazed. I knew of softupdates, but they were always a shady corn

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Eric Schuele
Csaba Henk wrote: Thanks for all the tips and answers, I will consider the mentioned alternatives. Yet I have one more question... On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 01:22:35PM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: dump(8) will create a snapshot of a live filesystem, dump the snapshot and then remove the snapshot,

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-31 Thread Csaba Henk
Thanks for all the tips and answers, I will consider the mentioned alternatives. Yet I have one more question... On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 01:22:35PM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote: > dump(8) will create a snapshot of a live filesystem, dump the snapshot > and then remove the snapshot, if given the cor

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-30 Thread Winelfred G. Pasamba
BackupPC http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&q=backuppc+freebsd On 10/31/05, albi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:49:02 +0100 > Csaba Henk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We plan to set up a backup server. > -- cut -- > > 1) What parts are to be backed up?

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-30 Thread albi
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:49:02 +0100 Csaba Henk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We plan to set up a backup server. -- cut -- > 1) What parts are to be backed up? If I backup the whole system, the > backup disk will get full soon. incremental backups via a script called from cron sounds good, you might

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-30 Thread Eric Schuele
Martin Hepworth wrote: Hi On 10/30/05, Csaba Henk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! We plan to set up a backup server. While the basic backup procedure is clear -- use some archiving utility like dump, tar, or cpio and send data to the backup server via ssh or a network mount -- there are many

Re: backup strategies

2005-10-30 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi On 10/30/05, Csaba Henk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > We plan to set up a backup server. > > While the basic backup procedure is clear -- use some archiving utility > like dump, tar, or cpio and send data to the backup server via ssh or a > network mount -- there are many details which