Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-06 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:24:51PM -0600, John wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:00:07AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > John writes: > > > > > J> Once upon a time, like version 7 Unix, login would simply make an > > J> exec-family call to replace itself with the desired "shell" after > >

RE: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 5:49 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions > > > Joh

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-06 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:54:00PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Loren M. Lang writes: > > LML> Right now I have two login processes running, one for each virtual > LML> console I am logged in at the moment, though my ssh login shells don't > LML> have any login processes for them. My guess i

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
John writes: J> No, there are HUGE security concerns. The big problem is that J> many things have shell escapes. Top, as far as I know, does not. But it's shell escapes that generally create the security concerns, no? Except for things like buffer overflows, but of course all FreeBSD software w

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread John
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:24:51PM -0600, John wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:00:07AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > John writes: > > > > J> I am not seeing what you are seeing. I see a login process hanging > > J> around with the regular shells, just like you are describing for top. >

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread John
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:00:07AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > John writes: > > J> I am not seeing what you are seeing. I see a login process hanging > J> around with the regular shells, just like you are describing for top. > > It has occurred to me that all my other logins are ssh, so ma

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
John writes: J> I am not seeing what you are seeing. I see a login process hanging J> around with the regular shells, just like you are describing for top. It has occurred to me that all my other logins are ssh, so maybe that's the difference. I don't have telnetd running at all. J> There's no

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Loren M. Lang writes: LML> Right now I have two login processes running, one for each virtual LML> console I am logged in at the moment, though my ssh login shells don't LML> have any login processes for them. My guess is that there staying LML> around for some cleanup work to do at logout. I th

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread John
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I've set up a user account that has top for its shell (instead of one of > the standard shells). As expected, when I log into this account, I > immediately find myself in top, and if I stop top, I'm instantly logged > out. That'

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread Chris Hodgins
Loren M. Lang wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: I've set up a user account that has top for its shell (instead of one of the standard shells). As expected, when I log into this account, I immediately find myself in top, and if I stop top, I'm instantly logge

Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions

2005-02-05 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I've set up a user account that has top for its shell (instead of one of > the standard shells). As expected, when I log into this account, I > immediately find myself in top, and if I stop top, I'm instantly logged > out. That'