andrew clarke wrote:
On Sat 2008-12-13 19:05:35 UTC+, Matthew Seaman
(m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk) wrote:
Ports aren't actually frozen at the moment. Neither are they
completely open for any sort of updates. Instead they're in a 'slush'
-- no sweeping changes permitted, no major chan
On Sat 2008-12-13 19:05:35 UTC+, Matthew Seaman
(m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk) wrote:
> Ports aren't actually frozen at the moment. Neither are they
> completely open for any sort of updates. Instead they're in a 'slush'
> -- no sweeping changes permitted, no major changes to the
> infra
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> Thank you Jonathan - I cannot give much to FBSD as I am not a
> programmer either but - again - if I can be of any use
> communication-wise, I am happy to join the community and serve.
Actually, you could give a lot to the project.
I could think of a few things and I'm su
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> As a community, we should be ashamed of this: ``volunteer effort'' just isn't
>> a good enough excuse - and those of us who haven't volunteered need to find
>> out how we can help get things back on track for the next release.
Jerry wrote:
My biggest gripe with the entire update schedule is that the ports
freeze has been frozen longer than my wife. Maybe having two separate
ports, one for the current version and one for the RC? version might
work better. I have never fully understood why the ports had to be
frozen any
Hello,
> As a community, we should be ashamed of this: ``volunteer effort'' just isn't
> a good enough excuse - and those of us who haven't volunteered need to find
> out how we can help get things back on track for the next release. When I
> first raised this, I asked if there was anything I coul
On Friday 12 December 2008 19:26, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
> --
> From: "Joe S"
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: "Roland Smith"
> Cc: ; "Jonathan McKeown"
>
> Subject: Re: Rele
Hi there,
> For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008. When
> that day comes (or same week perhaps), whoever has the ability to
> change the release schedule page should update it regardless of what
> happened. If RC2 builds started, that should be reflected in the
I have offer
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:20:12 -0800
"Joe S" wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Maxim Khitrov
>wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Glen Barber
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov
>>> wrote:
For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>>> For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008. When
>>> that day comes (or same week perhaps), whoever has the
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>> For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008. When
>> that day comes (or same week perhaps), whoever has the ability to
>> change the release schedule page should update
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>
> This discussion has come up countless number of times and the answer
> is always the same - all of us would rather wait for quality, but we'd
> also like some very rough timeline estimates that don't fall back into
> the past. Notice that I
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
>>
>>"When it's ready" used to be the scheduling principle.
>>Then came 5.0 debacle: behind schedule big-time (and arguably
>> not ready when it went out the door).
>>
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
>
>"When it's ready" used to be the scheduling principle.
>Then came 5.0 debacle: behind schedule big-time (and arguably
> not ready when it went out the door).
>I remember discussion afterwards, where there seemed to be
>
Joe S writes:
> >> What on earth is going on with release scheduling?
> >
> > Two words: volunteer project
> >
> > I would propose to do away with the release schedule altogether, or make
> > it very succinct;
> >
> > next release: when it's done.
>
> What? Isn't that the Linux kernel
--
From: "Joe S"
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:20 PM
To: "Roland Smith"
Cc: ; "Jonathan McKeown"
Subject: Re: Release schedules
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
>> I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can offer
>> any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
>>
>> What on earth is going on with release s
Now, some day we may be more fortunate, like Linux where Linus and
several others are each being paid by some company or consortium just to
EVERY good free software magically turns into crap when it gets heavy
financing. for OSes i don't know any exceptions...
Hello,
> I would like to see the release schedules updated more and I would
> guess that others would too. But, there is only so much you can
> expect out of volunteers already robbing time from their paying jobs.
I'd be happy to contribute by updating the website provided I am kept
informed ab
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can offer
> any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
>
> What on earth is going on with release scheduling?
>
> FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE, according to the sch
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan McKeown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: Release schedules
I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can
offer
any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
What on earth is
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:59:24 Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> What exactly is going on, and is there anything a busy sysadmin,
> poor in time, bandwidth and C skills, can do to help with either the
> release itself or the apparent scheduling/communication issues?
The best thing to do, is to fr
cpghost writes:
> > next release: when it's done.
>
> Actually, it's not so bad that the PRERELEASE phase is so long:
> in this time, more bugs are being fixed that would have normally
> been lingering in the pr database.
The problem is not technical; no one has a problem with th
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:13:47PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 November 2008 14:01:47 Roland Smith wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> > > I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can
> > > offer any help or us
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:01:47PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> > I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can offer
> > any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
> >
> > What on earth is going on
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 14:01:47 Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> > I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can
> > offer any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
> >
> > What on earth is going on with
On Behalf Of Jonathan McKeown
> What on earth is going on with release scheduling?
Please keep in mind that the work is being done almost entirely by
volunteers donating their "spare time". I don't know about you, but for
me, spare time is what is left over after all of my other commitments
are t
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can offer
> any help or useful suggestions, but here goes...
>
> What on earth is going on with release scheduling?
Two words: volunteer project
I would propose
On Thu, June 7, 2007 17:28, Tom Grove wrote:
> Are there release schedules for 6.3 and 7.0 up on the web somewhere?
> Something like:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/schedule.html
>
http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
Patrick
> -Tom
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