Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 20 January 2007 at 20:55:54 -0800, Michael wrote: > Greg Albrecht wrote: >> >> ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to >> 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any >> different than me having to scroll down to read your reply?

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Michael
Michael wrote: Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Top-posting defined simply ... > > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Michael
Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Top-posting defined simply ... > > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and i

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-20 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-01-19 15:21, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they >> position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the >> text. My editor also positi

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Tore Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are > > trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and > > not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of > > things t

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Tore Lund
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are > trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and > not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of > things that people should remove from replies. Hmmm. While I ca

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Joe Holden
Gerard Seibert wrote: On Friday January 19, 2007 at 10:21:24 (AM) Ceri Davies wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text.

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday January 19, 2007 at 10:21:24 (AM) Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they > > position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the > > text. My editor

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:32:38AM +1100, Murray Taylor wrote: > Exactly! And not only my .sig which I do have control over whether > I add it or not, and also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] stupid corporate disclaimer > also > (over which I have no control) sigh Though you could presumably add an e

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they > position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the > text. My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I > reply to a message. Bu

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 03:24:44PM -0800, Greg Albrecht wrote: > On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Top-posting defined simply ... > >> > >> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > >> A: Top-posti

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Robert Huff
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > For example, you can hold a gun to someone's head and make them > sign a contract. The second you walk away they take the contract > to a court and bam, it's invalidated because they signed under > duress. > > And if you look at recent court decisions, the defin

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Gerard
On Thursday January 18, 2007 at 08:33:32 (PM) Jay Chandler wrote: > Murray Taylor wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM > >> To: Murray Taylor > >&

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: "Jay Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "freebsd-questions" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) > > > > > > Have any of these disclaimers ever p

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On 1/19/07, Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have any of these disclaimers ever proven to be even the slightest bit legally enforceable? I mean, for God's sake, they're at the bottom of the message, essentially telling you not to read the message you just read. [...] They *assume* that

[OT] mail disclaimers [ was Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) ]

2007-01-18 Thread Matt Emmerton
> > [ snip much ado about mail etiquette and sigs and whatnot ] > > > > I started using the lists from work years ago when I was > > establishing the FreeBSD servers and it was easier to get > > Q&A stuff done... Since then the weenies have come along > > and changed out a perfectly servicable Post

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Jay Chandler
Murray Taylor wrote: -Original Message- From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM To: Murray Taylor Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Murray Taylor
> -Original Message- > From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM > To: Murray Taylor > Cc: freebsd-questions > Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) > > On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor &

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are > trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and > not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of > things that people should remove fr

RE: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Murray Taylor
> -Original Message- > From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 10:13 AM > To: Murray Taylor > Cc: Dak Ghatikachalam; freebsd-questions > Subject: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) > > [heavily trimmed, subject line clarifie

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 03:24:44PM -0800, Greg Albrecht wrote: > On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are > >trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and > >not writing one-line paragraphs

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Peter A. Giessel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2007/01/18 14:24, Greg Albrecht seems to have typed: > threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a > message after the original message, in succession. i understand that > different people configure and use their email c

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2007/01/18 14:24, Greg Albrecht seems to have typed: > threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a > message after the original message, in succession. i understand that > different people configure and use their email clients in different > ways, but why is there such a panderi

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Top-posting defined simply ... > > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > Unfortuna