On 14 February 2011 23:55, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>>
>> >From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
>> >flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
>> >to actually correct or at least de
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>
> >From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
> >flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
> >to actually correct or at least detect errors and try to remap bad
> >blocks to unused
Hi--
On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
> I would be curious to hear stories from people who actually *have* run
> into SSD failures related to write limitations. I've heard a lot of
> speculation but no actual anecdotes. I'm sure they're out there; but
> I also know people are m
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Frank Shute wrote:
> Agreed. I posted my short experience of using an SSD as a workstation
> drive and I'd be interested in hearing the experience of any other
> users. Problems? Praise? Let's hear it.
While not quite a workstation application, in a previous job
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:10:47 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Chip Camden wrote:
>
> > But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
> > the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
> ^
>
> Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone else?
It perfectly f
Chip Camden wrote:
> But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
> the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone else?
>;-)
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:10:26AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
>
> Hey, I just found out that libreoffice can open all those old .WRI files
> that MS Office no longer recognizes! Thanks for the tip!
My pleasure.
I bet it doesn't have the old Windows Write memory leak, either -- which,
by the way,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
>
> But for users who do not wish to learn anything and who want to use
> their computer the same way they use their DVD player or their electric
> toothbrush, the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
I think you're being too kind to the obviou
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>
> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
Perhaps responding to the "FreeBSD
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
> > efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
> > quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and th
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
>
> OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice offer functionality MS Office does not,
> just as MS Office offers functionality they do not. Different people
> have different needs, and those office suites serve slightly different
> needs. On the other hand, Op
On 13.02.2011 19:50, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
>>> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> > about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> > people with first-hand e
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>
>
> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
>
> - Max
Agreed. I posted my s
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin wrote:
> There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
> efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
> quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and that, unlike with
> open source OSes, it's actually fairly c
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
>> Bruce Cran articulated:
>>
>> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
>> > Jerry wrote:
>> >
>> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
>>
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
> Bruce Cran articulated:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more
So... how about those solid state drives... yup.
-Modulok-
On 2/13/11, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>>
>> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
>> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
>> y
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>
> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
> you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless "N"
> protocol cards, many other us
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500
Jerry wrote:
> New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man
> arguments I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008
> OpenOffice.org started the project Renaissance to improve the user
> interface of OpenOffice. So far the prototypes of the pr
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
> Bruce Cran articulated:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran articulated:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> Jerry wrote:
>
> > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
> > clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" mi
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and
> libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus.
Users who have already used PCs are familiar with the menu
technique of functionality presentation. Scanning
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term.
It's not.
> What one user considers bloat
> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
> you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless "N"
> protocol cards, many
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry wrote:
> Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
> clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" might be usable
> someday; however, it is now only in its infancy. There is
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:23:53 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
> >
> > Chad, on the "Desk
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
>
> Chad, on the "Desktop", I'd rather run the ratware from Redmond than try
> FreeBSD! The second c
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> >
> > I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
> > machines when their life is so much in question.
>
> I fail to see why a manufacturer wou
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>
> I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
> machines when their life is so much in question.
I fail to see why a manufacturer would *not* want your hardware to wear
out faster, since that would
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:54:19 +, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > Should I stop and buy a SATA disk?:)
> >
>
> No you shouldn't but you should run FreeBSD on it ;)
What else should one run?! ;-)
> All I know is that I've been us
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More >wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > > Define "a *lot*". If you look up the
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave wrote:
> >
> > > Define "a *lot*". If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
> > > available SSD systems, it's o
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave wrote:
>
> > Define "a *lot*". If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
> > available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
> > compared to magnetic media.
> >
>
>
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave wrote:
> Define "a *lot*". If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
> available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
> compared to magnetic media.
>
Chances are on many setups, by the time you've written enough data to
On 11 Feb 2011 at 13:33, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin
> wrote:
>
> > Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
> >
> > You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have
> > lots of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enj
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
>
> You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have lots
> of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enjoy buying new
> SSDs a lot. Actually, let's not ignore TRIM; t
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:40:37AM +, Paul Macdonald wrote:
>
> I'd be interested to here peoples opinions on best uses for SSD, general
> purpose applications such as databases , webservers etc will benefit
> obviously,
>
> but i'm also curious as to disk intensive applications such as ma
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