Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
Volker Kindermann wrote: > what about giving them /usr/bin/passwd as the shell? So, the only thing they have to do is ssh to the system and they're asked for the password. Haven't tried this on FreeBSD yet, but it should work. Did a cursory testing just now and they seem to work. I'm going to con

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
Matthew Seaman wrote: > Since you aren't allowing your users to log into your FreeBSD server the question arises as to why exactly they need passwords there? Two things leap to mind immediately: access to shared filesystems or access to an e-mail server. It's an e-mail server. Previously I set it

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hi, > system password. They found that sshing to the server and typing > passwd to change the password is wee too involving hence the need to > use a much friendlier interface. Letting the sysadmins change the > user's password is not a good idea, as the sysadmins are outsourced > and the users v

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Julian Cowley
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm somehow stuck in the loop now and am hoping some of you can give me > pointers on how to proceed. Due to a customer requirement, I need to > build a simple web-based (via cgi or php) script to change the system > password. They fou

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-06-15T17:10:28Z, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There was a tacit assumption in what I was saying that users wouldn't > choose weak passwords. Just checking. I give you more credit than that by default but wanted to be sure. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgpzxvoNpDsPi.pgp Descrip

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 11:48:34AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-06-15T13:46:21Z, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The fact that sysadmins generally don't know users' passwords, and have no > > practical means of finding them out if the user doesn't want them to know > > wh

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-06-15T13:46:21Z, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The fact that sysadmins generally don't know users' passwords, and have no > practical means of finding them out if the user doesn't want them to know > what it is. Install and play with "john". It was enlightening for me. >

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:16:02AM -0400, Mark Frank wrote: > * On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 01:44:25PM +0800 Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm somehow stuck in the loop now and am hoping some of you can give me > > pointers on how to proceed. Due to a customer requirement, I need t

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Geert Hendrickx
> For e-mail access, the same sort of arguments apply. You can > alternatively separate the database of e-mail accounts completely from > the system password database: the Cyrus e-mail system (in ports) works > in that way, and there are some well documented recipes on the web for > setting up suc

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Mark Frank
* On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 01:44:25PM +0800 Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm somehow stuck in the loop now and am hoping some of you can give me > pointers on how to proceed. Due to a customer requirement, I need to > build a simple web-based (via cgi or php) script to change the sy

Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 01:44:25PM +0800, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > I'm somehow stuck in the loop now and am hoping some of you can give me > pointers on how to proceed. Due to a customer requirement, I need to > build a simple web-based (via cgi or php) script to change the system > passw