Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:39, Nico Meijer wrote: Regular folks don't understand how mail works. They have no clue whatsoever. They don't _want_ to have a clue either. They are just behaving like consumers, again. Do you *really* want to know what's on y

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 03:11:24PM -0700, Brent Wiese wrote: > Is there a way to make the backup MX server understand that some mail is > ultimately destined for it and try to deliver it locally? > > Here would be an example: > > Mydomain.com is MX'd to mail.mydomin.com, which handles email for

RE: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-30 Thread Brent Wiese
> That's the hard part. The Secondary MX'ing part is fairly easy. All > you do is get your friend to add an MX record to the DNS > 'yourfriend.com' zone listing your server as a high numbered MXer: > > $ORIGIN yourfriend.com. > > @ INMX 0 smtp.yourfriend.com. >

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Lynch
Nico Meijer wrote: > Hey Bill, >> Are you saying that it's better for users not to know that their mail >> has been delayed? > > Unfortunately, yes. That is what I am saying. > > On a technical level, I totally disagree with myself. On a practical, > day-to-day operations level I have to admit I'd

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-28 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Bill, When I have a choice of punishing idiots or smart people, I punish idiots. When black mode is on, I just want to get them all. ;-) When I arrange fallback MX for people/organisations, they expect their mail to be handled in a delicate, perhaps even 'professional' manner. No mail may be l

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 01:38:15PM -0600, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > When I have a choice of punishing idiots or smart people, I punish > idiots. This is excellent. It should be on a bumper sticker or something. > > > Look at the vehicle situation. If people would force stupid drivers > to w

[OT] Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Doug, Point taken. Wrong example, imho, but point taken. ;-) > They will have no problem convincing Joe Sub-Average juror (of which there will be more than enough to go around) that you were the cause of Joe Average computer users' loss of his entire retirement savings. I have just enough fait

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Bill Moran
Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Bill, > > Black mode is on, here. ;-) I'm not familiar with that metaphor. > > Are you saying that it's better for users not to know that their mail > > has been delayed? > > Unfortunately, yes. That is what I am saying. > > On a technical level, I

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-27 Thread Doug Hardie
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:39, Nico Meijer wrote: Regular folks don't understand how mail works. They have no clue whatsoever. They don't _want_ to have a clue either. They are just behaving like consumers, again. Do you *really* want to know what's on your plate at dinner? ;-) I do, maybe you too, bu

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Chuck Swiger
Eric Crist wrote: [ ... ] One of my friends needs backup DNS/Mail in the even their connection goes down. How do I go about setting it up so that his user base (about 80 users) will not see any problems in mail transmission and reception if their primary servers go offline. I would like mine t

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 12:19:56PM -0500, Eric Crist wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to having a remote backup > mail server and the setup of such. I'm currently using sendmail, and I > don't want to change that, so please don't recommend any of the other > servers out th

Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-09-26 Thread Bill Moran
Eric Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to having a remote backup > mail server and the setup of such. I'm currently using sendmail, and I > don't want to change that, so please don't recommend any of the other > servers out there. ;