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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:09:52PM +, Devin Teske wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
> > >
> > > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a
> > > system upgrade if you wan
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
> >
> > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a
> > system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the
> > box was first ... what
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:
>
> You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a
> system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the
> box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here.
>
> What _is_ the defin
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Alexandr Sushko
wrote:
> Try to use not ls -l, but ls -lc. It will show you file creation time.
>
>
> ls -lcd /bin/, for example
>
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Dec 10 00:31 /bin/
>
>
I ran this and the earliest date I found was Oct 12, 2008 which seems to be
a
On 01/13/2011 11:28 PM, David Demelier wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation
date. We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the
FreeBSD kernel is possible.
I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever in the system can
On 14/01/2011 19:46, Carl Johnson wrote:
Chip Camden writes:
Quoth Carl Chave on Friday, 14 January 2011:
I'd suggest looking at the Btimes of top level directories
stat -f "%SB %N" /*
Or how about just / as this ~15 minutes earlier than most of the
remaining top level directories
sodser
Chip Camden writes:
> Quoth Carl Chave on Friday, 14 January 2011:
>> > I'd suggest looking at the Btimes of top level directories
>> >
>> > stat -f "%SB %N" /*
>>
>> Or how about just / as this ~15 minutes earlier than most of the
>> remaining top level directories
>>
>>
>> sodserve# stat -f
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:32:13 -0800
Chip Camden wrote:
> > sodserve# stat -f "%SB %N" /*
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /COPYRIGHT
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /bin
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /boot
> > Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 /dev
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /etc
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /lib
> > Jan 9 04:54:21 20
On 14 January 2011 15:37, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth n j on Friday, 14 January 2011:
> > >>> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation
> date.
> > >>> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
> > >>> kernel is possible.
> >
> > How about looki
Quoth n j on Friday, 14 January 2011:
> >>> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
> >>> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
> >>> kernel is possible.
>
> How about looking at /proc or /mnt?
>
> On a couple of my boxes that I che
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Carl Johnson wrote:
> How about /var/empty:
>
> % ls -ldo /var/empty/
> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jul 18 19:16 /var/empty/
>
> It can be changed, but doesn't look likely.
>
>
Ivan's e-mail I think might be a little more accurate
ch...@ziggy.xaerolimit.
Quoth David DEMELIER on Friday, 14 January 2011:
> 2011/1/13 Chip Camden :
> >
> > The date on the /home symlink reflects my install date. I don't think
> > anything would touch that.
> >
> > --
> > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F
> > http://camdensoftware.
Quoth Carl Chave on Friday, 14 January 2011:
> > I'd suggest looking at the Btimes of top level directories
> >
> > stat -f "%SB %N" /*
>
> Or how about just / as this ~15 minutes earlier than most of the
> remaining top level directories
>
>
> sodserve# stat -f "%SB %N" /*
> Jan 9 04:54:21 201
On 13 January 2011 20:34, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Thursday, January 13, 2011 a las 09:28:29PM +0100, David Demelier
> escribió:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
> > We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of
>>> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
>>> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
>>> kernel is possible.
How about looking at /proc or /mnt?
On a couple of my boxes that I checked, those files came up being the
oldest and proba
2011/1/13 Chip Camden :
> Quoth David Demelier on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
>> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
>> kernel is possible.
>>
>> I think searching a file
> I'd suggest looking at the Btimes of top level directories
>
> stat -f "%SB %N" /*
Or how about just / as this ~15 minutes earlier than most of the
remaining top level directories
sodserve# stat -f "%SB %N" /*
Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /COPYRIGHT
Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /bin
Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /boot
Chip Camden writes:
> Quoth Carl Johnson on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
>> Polytropon writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:50:27 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>> >> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
>> >>
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:28:29 +0100
David Demelier wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation
> date. We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the
> FreeBSD kernel is possible.
>
> I think searching a file absolutely not touched
Quoth Carl Johnson on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
> Polytropon writes:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:50:27 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> >> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
> >> > query the date the machine
Quoth Ivan Voras on Friday, 14 January 2011:
> On 13/01/2011 21:28, David Demelier wrote:
> >Hello folks,
> >
> >I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
> >We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
> >kernel is possible.
>
> If you haven
Polytropon writes:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:50:27 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
>> > query the date the machine was built):
>> >
>> >ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>>
>>
On 13/01/2011 21:28, David Demelier wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
kernel is possible.
If you haven't removed it, a line in /etc/rc.conf should be written by
sys
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:50:27 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
> > query the date the machine was built):
> >
> > ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>
> I gather that you don't ever
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 13:50 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
> > query the date the machine was built):
> >
> > ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>
> I gather that you don't ever ru
On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
> This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to
> query the date the machine was built):
>
> ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf
I gather that you don't ever run mergemaster, which would update this file?
My machine installed i
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 13:03 -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth Chuck Swiger on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
> > On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Chip Camden wrote:
> > > On my system, /etc/termcap has the date well after my installation
> > > (Jun 28 2010) and /etc/rmt dates to well before (Nov 21 2009).
Quoth Chuck Swiger on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Chip Camden wrote:
> > On my system, /etc/termcap has the date well after my installation
> > (Jun 28 2010) and /etc/rmt dates to well before (Nov 21 2009). I first
> > installed FreeBSD on this system on Apr 1 2010.
On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Chip Camden wrote:
> On my system, /etc/termcap has the date well after my installation
> (Jun 28 2010) and /etc/rmt dates to well before (Nov 21 2009). I first
> installed FreeBSD on this system on Apr 1 2010.
Certainly the target of the link would change; my /etc/t
2011/1/13 Chuck Swiger :
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:28 PM, David Demelier wrote:
>> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date. We
>> can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD kernel is
>> possible.
>>
>> I think searching a file absolutely not
Quoth Chuck Swiger on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:28 PM, David Demelier wrote:
> > I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date. We
> > can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD kernel
> > is possible.
> >
> > I think se
Quoth David Demelier on Thursday, 13 January 2011:
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
> kernel is possible.
>
> I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever i
On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:28 PM, David Demelier wrote:
> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date. We
> can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD kernel is
> possible.
>
> I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever in the system can
El dÃa Thursday, January 13, 2011 a las 09:28:29PM +0100, David Demelier
escribió:
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
> We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
> kernel is possible.
>
> I think searching
Hello folks,
I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date.
We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD
kernel is possible.
I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever in the system can
helps but which one?
markand@Melon ~ $ ls -
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