Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Bart Silverstrim
Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Reid Linnemann wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure o

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Hi Gerard, Gerard wrote: I was not aware of any place where they gave computers away. In the UK we call them "skips". Not sure what the rest of the world calls them. [Large metal junk containers placed at the back of large buildings near the other bins. They're usually hired rather than owne

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
idea how, and I was expecting a nice "user-friendly" GUI, like Windoze, but without the constant crashes. that's what most people expect. and thats why i say: Windows it the most windows compatible system available. don't change to other. In 1999 I purchased "The complete FreeBSD, 3rd edit

Re[2]: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Gerard
On August 10, 2007 at 03:47AM Wojciech Puchar wrote: > well here in poland people do see a difference, because computer has to be > bought, while windoze can be pirated. I was not aware of any place where they gave computers away. > in my 320 user network less than ten bought windoze, over 30

Windows style computing (was Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
On GdaƄsk technical university there was a man about 50 years teaching people unix (mostly). what he talked very often: --- DO NOT use windows EVER. Not because it's slow, not because it crashes, and not because it can't do much. Not because of security too. But because it's teaching BAD HAB

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, how would you define He probably equates a desktop environment (such as KDE/Gnome/etc.) to a GUI. most people exactly equates that and i stated i that such defined GUI is completely useless and actually takes over time and resources

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Freitag 10 August 2007 10:57:38 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text > > and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, > > there are plenty of nice other wm's good for t

X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text > and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, > there are plenty of nice other wm's good for that. I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, ho

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
User-friendliness is obviously subjective. Some people consider a my definition is that user friendly system does what i want, does it right and quickly. simply - it's my slave. not my master. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
sincerely assume that. well here in poland people do see a difference, because computer has to be bought, while windoze can be pirated. in my 320 user network less than ten bought windoze, over 300 uses pirated one, 10 uses my X-terminals. and it's good for microsoft. if police in poland

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Sorry, I agree with you, s/GUI/graphic based/ in my post. I've just Yes - graphics based. I use graphics based programs like gimp, links -g, opera, xv & xzgv, gv and xdvi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mai

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of the capabilities of the machine. Granted, it could be only because she's ten, but I think we'd find a lot of people thin

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 08:20:13PM +0200, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > >My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw > >my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i > >was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user > >interfac

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Reid Linnemann wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of the capabilities of t

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:15:08 -0500 Reid Linnemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She > saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know > why i was using such an "old" computer. [...] Granted, it could be > only beca

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:04:50 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ > > -- or can be if you want -- a "perfect desktop system". > > i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text > and graphic (X) base

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Wojciech Puchar on 08/09/07 12:04>> desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ -- or can be if you want -- a "perfect desktop system". i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, t

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
desktop system should be, so FreeBSD with GUI apps _is_ -- or can be if you want -- a "perfect desktop system". i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, there are plenty of nice other wm's good for tha